The Labour Party - Part 2

[RollingJ 2,037]

2 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said:

Hmmm...

... I can't see that working.

 

To paraphrase Mr Martin Luther King... "violence doesn't solve anything".

 

😂👍🤣

[andyofborg 11]

8 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

I dunno - according to some on here, we need the Labour Party in charge - now!

Tomorrow will do

[RollingJ 2,037]

1 minute ago, andyofborg said:

Tomorrow will do

Can't see it somehow - or even next year.

[Consheff 0]

Council leader Bob Johnson looses his seat is it news worthy now?

2 hours ago, ab6262 said:

its been curtains for labour and socialism for a while now, its been see for what it is! pie in the sky politics and ideals.

Hartlepool went well this morning eh Kier?

🤣 Labour taking one hell of a beating today 

14 minutes ago, nightrider said:

council leader has lost his seat to the greens!

**** shock horror lol

14 minutes ago, nightrider said:

council leader has lost his seat to the greens!

shock horror lol Labour are done for whose going to lead the council now 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Consheff

[tinfoilhat 11]

Just now, RollingJ said:

Can't see it somehow - or even next year.

I don't think the next 10 if I'm honest. 

[Baron99 795]

51 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

And considering it is mid-term for the Government, and all the sleaze allegations, that must be extremely worrying for the Labour Party. I know if I was in charge of strategy, I'd be wondering where we'd gone wrong.

According to the a number of political journalists this morning, the rule of thumb the sitting government party never gain any by-election seats but just loose them.

 

The last time anything like Hartlepool happened, Labour won a seat in a by-election from the Conservatives back in 1946 with a 12% swing from the Tories to Labour.  Last night saw a swing from Lab to the Tories of 23% apparently.  So it was an historical win. 

[andyofborg 11]

7 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Can't see it somehow - or even next year.

Bring back Blair - he won more elections than all of the other leaders over the last 20odd years combined. 

7 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

According to the a number of political journalists this morning, the rule of thumb the sitting government party never gain any by-election seats but just loose them.

 

The last time anything like Hartlepool happened, Labour won a seat in a by-election from the Conservatives back in 1946 with a 12% swing from the Tories to Labour.  Last night saw a swing from Lab to the Tories of 23% apparently.  So it was an historical win. 

Its what would have happened in 2019 had the brexit party not split the vote. 

[apelike 10]

3 minutes ago, andyofborg said:

Bring back Blair - he won more elections than all of the other leaders over the last 20odd years combined. 

You are probably right as this seems to be the death of socialism in the UK, but please not Blair....

Edited May 7, 2021 by apelike

[RollingJ 2,037]

3 minutes ago, andyofborg said:

Bring back Blair - he won more elections than all of the other leaders over the last 20odd years combined. 

 

And I'm still sat here, after all these years, trying to work out why.

[andyofborg 11]

8 minutes ago, apelike said:

You are probably right as this seems to be the death of socialism in the UK, but please not Blair....

What people generally defined as socialism died 40 years ago. 

 

What we need now is a reimagining of the core ideals of fairness, equality of treatment and opportunity suitable for the modern age, 

[Jim Hardie 527]

2 hours ago, Consheff said:

Seems people haven't forgotten about the way Labour went against brexit and fail to see what the majority want and revert to name calling calling people thick and stupid is a sure fire way to loose your votes 

Brexit played its part, but when did Labour call people thick and stupid?

Learn to recognise  propaganda when you hear/read it.

[apelike 10]

4 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

And I'm still sat here, after all these years, trying to work out why.

He removed clause IV which was the core principle of socialism and took on market economics just the same as Thatcher did.