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The Labour Party - Part 2

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Not looking good for Corbyn.  

 

Lost his case and will have to pay.

 

Time to either step quietly out of the limelight or, if he has the supporters he thinks he has, start his own party.

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-suspension-court-case-7078092

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Lord Corbyn of Islington then for sure? 

 

You know?  Like all the great Labour Socialist firebrands, (Blunkett, Prescott, et al) , elevated to the House of Lords, to bring them down by fighting them from within (on £320 per day signing in claim). 

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2 hours ago, alchresearch said:

Not looking good for Corbyn.  

 

Lost his case and will have to pay.

 

Time to either step quietly out of the limelight or, if he has the supporters he thinks he has, start his own party.

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-suspension-court-case-7078092

Interestingly, this could just be one of many losses for Corbyn. 

 

This wasn't even the main case. It was just a preliminary hearing to argue what documents should be disclosed. As you say, let's hope he gets the message and goes back quietly before he risks even more personal loss.

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5 hours ago, alchresearch said:

Not looking good for Corbyn.  

 

Lost his case and will have to pay.

 

Time to either step quietly out of the limelight or, if he has the supporters he thinks he has, start his own party.

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-suspension-court-case-7078092

i wouldn't necessarily say so.

this link is quite interesting,  it states...

 

"However, the judge also linked the decision to her finding that Corbyn already had enough to press on with in the substantive case at this point – and said his team can submit amendments later in the case regarding the agreement that was negotiated with Starmer’s office. And there was considerable bad news for Starmer’s case in the rest of the judgment, which:

  1. acknowledges in a judicial finding – in paragraph 9 – that the ‘Governance and Legal Unit’ (GLU) report presented to the National Executive Committee ‘Disputes Panel’ did not find that JC had engaged in prejudicial conduct
  2. finds in paragraph 10 that the Disputes Panel made no finding that Corbyn’s conduct was grossly detrimental
  3. finds that there is a clear arguable case of procedural unfairness that has been identified"

https://skwawkbox.org/2021/01/28/exclusive-result-in-corbyn-pre-action-disclosure-is-not-what-mainstream-media-are-claiming/?fbclid=IwAR1nNpp6ylTPw7GsVocd5vsnyebEDSJwmNLGzFjBtZAdPjIqWGuGVZ-b-g8

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There is something wrong with the system when an honest decent man like Corbyn can be so maligned, and an obvious liar and charlatan like Johnson becomes Prime Minister. 

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6 hours ago, Anna B said:

There is something wrong with the system when an honest decent man like Corbyn can be so maligned, and an obvious liar and charlatan like Johnson becomes Prime Minister. 

I agree, but those on the left dont seem to keen on voting for Kier so it will repeat over and over again. The opposition  vote and the vote on the left is split. Meaning the Tories will win again.

Will you be supporting Kier Starmer?

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8 hours ago, Anna B said:

There is something wrong with the system when an honest decent man like Corbyn can be so maligned, and an obvious liar and charlatan like Johnson becomes Prime Minister. 

Think you'll find that Jeremy didn't win because Tory voters backed Boris. 

 

Jeremy didn't win because Tory AND Labour voters didn't believe in him, didn't trust AND they backed Boris. 

 

Nothing wrong with the system, (it's always the system or someone else's fault), it's the one we decided to keep in a democratic vote on around a decade ago. 

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3 hours ago, Baron99 said:

Nothing wrong with the system, (it's always the system or someone else's fault), it's the one we decided to keep in a democratic vote on around a decade ago. 

The UK is unique among European countries in terms of its electoral system – and not in a good way. It’s the only country with a parliamentary system that uses the outdated, one-person-takes-all First Past the Post system.

The Alternative Vote (AV) is a relatively unusual electoral system, today used only in Australia, and, in a modified form, in one of Australias island called Nauru.

The AV vote was a stitch up by David Cameron.

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I can see this used to be a very active thread, and it seems quite telling that no-one has anything to say about the Labour Party anymore. I could have a go: there is a political party and it's called Labour. That appears to be the sum total of what there is to say though.

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13 minutes ago, Delbow said:

I can see this used to be a very active thread, and it seems quite telling that no-one has anything to say about the Labour Party anymore. I could have a go: there is a political party and it's called Labour. That appears to be the sum total of what there is to say though.

A party with no beliefs and no policies, that they are willing to talk about and simply claim that they want to make the poor better off without explaining how they will do that and who is going to pay.

As they still believe in privatisation and all the policies which Blair & Brown followed, there is no point voting for them because they just took Margaret Thatchers policies when they got into power.

Leaves people wondering about the difference in their policies and the Tories. One thing to be sure of (because they told everyone not to talk about it) is that they want to get much closer to Europe again, whatever the cost.

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35 minutes ago, Delbow said:

I can see this used to be a very active thread, and it seems quite telling that no-one has anything to say about the Labour Party anymore. I could have a go: there is a political party and it's called Labour. That appears to be the sum total of what there is to say though.

When the Tories have a stonking majority at Westminster, it makes the opposion redundant. Does it matter what the opposition says? The only show in town is Boris.

Boris got a massive majority because of Brexit, not because he is great or Corbyn was poor. The country needs a better electoral system, which is why we need to elect Labour at the next election.

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11 minutes ago, El Cid said:

When the Tories have a stonking majority at Westminster, it makes the opposion redundant. Does it matter what the opposition says? The only show in town is Boris.

Boris got a massive majority because of Brexit, not because he is great or Corbyn was poor. The country needs a better electoral system, which is why we need to elect Labour at the next election.

That makes a great deal of sense -not.

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