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2 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Okay chuck, have a good night's rest x

8,045,311,447
 
The World Population in 2023 is 8,045,311,447 (at mid-year, according to U.N. estimates), a 0.88% increase (70,206,291 people) from 2022, when the population was 7,975,105,156, a 0.83% increase (65,810,005 people) from 2021, when the world population was 7,909,295,151.

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55 minutes ago, cressida said:

France,  being a much larger country than ours,  Spain too -  why didn't they stop them.  or try to limit the number of immigrants from their own land borders,  the EU are very stringent regarding their rules for their members but are unconcerned about immigrants breaching borders.

The situation is building and resources eventually diminish - a reasonable excuse for not obeying the international law and making them recognize that it is unworkable.

I was watching an old film today and the actress was saying there were two million people in the world,  1951 the film was made - surely not.

What was the rush to leave Europe  for then ?   It's no good leaving Europe and then crying that they are better at keeping asylum seekers out.

As has been explained to you,  France does take in many more asylum seekers than we do and always has.

If you think the French government are doing the job better than ours you should call on our government to do the job properly.

Not obeying International law will not make a lot of difference and,  if other countries do the same,  we will be the worst of the lot again anyway.

 

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The fundamental problem is that we live in a very unfair world of haves and have nots, so it's not surprising that half the population wants to better itself and its situation. Hence mass migration to better off countries with more opportunities.

 

As I understand it, all the European countries are struggling with the same problem and taking just as many, if not more refugees/economic migrants as we are, but we are the end of the line, and there's nowhere we can pass them onto, so we have to try to stop so many coming, and cope better with the ones that do.

 

It needs proper organisation as well as regulation, and heaven knows we should have enough civil servants to come up with something and do the job. First we need to establish if they are genuine refugees (of which there are many,) and give them priority, then improve our vetting process to make it quick and efficient. Provide large clean camps where they can wait, growing their own food and cooking it to make them self sufficient and self sustaining, and use the time to teach them the language, and the British way of life. And assess their suitability, and willingness to adapt. The Army would be useful here.

 

We have need of certain skills. Anyone who can provide those skills should be admitted.

We also need to use a degree of humanity to accept some of the rest if suitable and hardworking; under licence, any breech of which will see them immediately returned to their country of origin.

 

We also need to point out strongly to these fit, determined, young men that they are needed to build up their own country and make it a better place in which to live. They are made of the right stuff to do it. Perhaps a small grant could be given out of our foreign aid budget to persuade them to return to their own country and start up small businesses or get education etc. which would be cheaper and more productive than keeping them here in uncertain, indefinite limbo.   

 

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2 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

What an absolute pathetic post. 

Someone said it was 300000 billion trillion million.

Yea , as pathetic as asking you a question and expecting a honest answer . 

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9 minutes ago, Anna B said:

The fundamental problem is that we live in a very unfair world of haves and have nots, so it's not surprising that half the population wants to better itself and its situation. Hence mass migration to better off countries with more opportunities.

 

As I understand it, all the European countries are struggling with the same problem and taking just as many, if not more refugees/economic migrants as we are, but we are the end of the line, and there's nowhere we can pass them onto, so we have to try to stop so many coming, and cope better with the ones that do.

 

It needs proper organisation as well as regulation, and heaven knows we should have enough civil servants to come up with something and do the job. First we need to establish if they are genuine refugees (of which there are many,) and give them priority, then improve our vetting process to make it quick and efficient. Provide large clean camps where they can wait, growing their own food and cooking it to make them self sufficient and self sustaining, and use the time to teach them the language, and the British way of life. And assess their suitability, and willingness to adapt. The Army would be useful here.

 

We have need of certain skills. Anyone who can provide those skills should be admitted.

We also need to use a degree of humanity to accept some of the rest if suitable and hardworking; under licence, any breech of which will see them immediately returned to their country of origin.

 

We also need to point out strongly to these fit, determined, young men that they are needed to build up their own country and make it a better place in which to live. They are made of the right stuff to do it. Perhaps a small grant could be given out of our foreign aid budget to persuade them to return to their own country and start up small businesses or get education etc. which would be cheaper and more productive than keeping them here in uncertain, indefinite limbo.   

 

The two are not mutually exclusive.

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So you vote Labour at the next election & you get the start of the privatisation of the NHS.  

 

From today's 'i' newspaper:¬† 'Shadow Health Secretary¬†Wes Streeting¬†has said he would ‚Äúhold the door wide open‚ÄĚ to private sector entrepreneurs who can improve the NHS if the¬†Labour Party¬†enter Government.'¬†

 

I suppose all the Lefties lovers of the NHS will get behind this as its a Labour initiative not a Conservative one, so that's ok.  

 

Well downtrodden Labour supporting masses, what do you have to say?  

 

I wonder if Streeting has cleared the comment with Mr Flip-flop, Sir Blair Starmer? 

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10 hours ago, Baron99 said:

So you vote Labour at the next election & you get the start of the privatisation of the NHS.  

 

From today's 'i' newspaper:¬† 'Shadow Health Secretary¬†Wes Streeting¬†has said he would ‚Äúhold the door wide open‚ÄĚ to private sector entrepreneurs who can improve the NHS if the¬†Labour Party¬†enter Government.'¬†

 

I suppose all the Lefties lovers of the NHS will get behind this as its a Labour initiative not a Conservative one, so that's ok.  

 

Well downtrodden Labour supporting masses, what do you have to say?  

 

I wonder if Streeting has cleared the comment with Mr Flip-flop, Sir Blair Starmer? 

How can it be "the start of the privatisation of the NHS" ?

That was started many many years ago and has grown a lot since,  or were you not aware of that fact.

Best to know what you're talking about before you say it.

Starmer and Streeting,  are fans of privatisation and have already accepted "donations"  from Private American Health Care companies.

 

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22 hours ago, Jack Grey said:

The simple answer Cress is that the French don't want them

 

They are happy for them to leave their SAFE country and go to the UK 

 

Thousands upon thousands of men who have travelled through countless safe countries and paid thousands to get on a boat to the UK are poor vulnerable victims who need compassion and lots of free hotels and food and medical care

 

All welcomed by liberals who are too stupid to see it's all a scam 

What exactly do the French do to earn the money the government give them,  whatever they do is ineffective.

 

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27 minutes ago, cressida said:

What exactly do the French do to earn the money the government give them,  whatever they do is ineffective.

 

I think the French do the bare minimum and I guess without their help it would be millions of predominantly Muslim men arriving illegally every year instead of hundreds of thousands 

 

And they'll all demand somewhere nice to live and free everything 

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11 minutes ago, Jack Grey said:

I think the French do the bare minimum and I guess without their help it would be millions of predominantly Muslim men arriving illegally every year instead of hundreds of thousands 

 

And they'll all demand somewhere nice to live and free everything 

I've just read the link which Mister M sent me,  it's costing Australia millions and I believed that they were more stringent than our government, Greece and Italy have pushed boats back.

 

Let me know by pm when you'll be back if you can,  you could be unable to reach from where you'll be.

 

 

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1 minute ago, cressida said:

I've just read the link which Mister M sent me,  it's costing them millions and I believed that they were more stringent than our government, Greece and Italy have pushed boats back.

 

Let me know by pm when you'll be back if you can,  you could be unable to reach from where you'll be.

 

 

Park Hill flats?

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10 minutes ago, Jack Grey said:

I think the French do the bare minimum and I guess without their help it would be millions of predominantly Muslim men arriving illegally every year instead of hundreds of thousands 

 

And they'll all demand somewhere nice to live and free everything 

Unlike the UK where they get put in whatever is going and don't get everything free as I've shown previously. 

4 minutes ago, cressida said:

I've just read the link which Mister M sent me,  it's costing them millions and I believed that they were more stringent than our government, Greece and Italy have pushed boats back.

 

Let me know by pm when you'll be back if you can,  you could be unable to reach from where you'll be.

 

 

I'm sure they have internet in Florida or Mexico. ūüėā

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