No Way To Run A Football Club

[Organgrinder]

18 minutes ago, Findlay said:

It seems the rabid islamic rhetoric of labour MPs (who quit) are demanding a ceasefire in Gaza with  "The Fox" being ignored.
Our MPs are supposed to be a voice of the people but also a voice of reason. Will these MPs have the courage to tell their constituents they are being lied to about gaza and treat like donkeys by people who have no care for them and only their cause.

Care to re-write that so it makes sense and tell us who is being lied to and by whom and who has no care except for the cause.

Where has "The Fox" come from in relation to Gaza  -  first time 've head of a "fox" but I only follow the news and never go on weird websites.

All I can gather is that Labour MP's have upset you by quitting but I don't know why.  Are they not allowed to think for themselves,  but must ask you what they should do ?

 

Edited November 16 by Organgrinder

[Findlay]

 

Edited November 16 by Findlay

[Organgrinder]

4 hours ago, El Cid said:

How would a party ever increase taxes or cut funding, if it was unpopular with constituents?

Constituents should have enough brain cells to realise that everything has to be paid for and that means that taxes sometimes need to be altered or funding changed ( not always cut ).

Nobody like it when taxes go up but,  at this very moment,  taxes are higher than at any time since World War 2,  and politicians do have to make unpopular decisions.

Thee main problem in this country is the way money is wasted on a massive scale and then having funding cut to things which are badly needed which we could afford with sensible  decisions.

[Prettytom]

This place gets odder by the day

 

Edited November 16 by Prettytom

[RollingJ]

3 minutes ago, Prettytom said:

This place gets odder by the day

 

Yea, you keep popping up. 😀

[Axe]

34 minutes ago, Findlay said:

It seems the rabid islamic rhetoric of labour MPs (who quit) are demanding a ceasefire in Gaza with  "The Fox" being ignored.
Our MPs are supposed to be a voice of the people but also a voice of reason. Will these MPs have the courage to tell their constituents they are being lied to about gaza and treat like donkeys by people who have no care for them and only their cause.

The Hamas terrorists have made it clear they are not interested in a cease fire. It is ludicrous for Israel to agree to a one sided cease fire. Those calling for a cease fire are terrorist sympathisers such as John McDonnell a well known supporter of both Hamas and the IRA.

[Prettytom]

3 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Yea, you keep popping up. 😀

Thought I’d join in.😁

 

Don’t try that at home, by the way. 

 

 

Just now, Axe said:

The Hamas terrorists have made it clear they are not interested in a cease fire. It is ludicrous for Israel to agree to a one sided cease fire. Those calling for a cease fire are terrorist sympathisers such as John McDonnell a well known supporter of both Hamas and the IRA.

[Organgrinder]

2 hours ago, cressida said:

It's an insult to the veterans.

I agree with stopping people defacing war memorials etc and wouldn't argue with that.

What worries me is the phrase  "terrorist sympathisers"  which means a lot of different things to different people.

It seems to be commonly thought that people such as myself who are upset at what's happening to the innocent Palestinian people are "terrorist sympathisers"

I have no sympathy for terrorists at all,  and I'm as disgusted as everyone else at their brutality. 

The ordinary people of Palestine are peaceful people who don't even have an army and who wish to live their lives in peace. 

They have been oppressed, imprisoned and killed  in their own land,  by the Israeli's and had their homes and farms taken from them to give to Jewish settlers for over 70 years.

These are the people I sympathise with and NOT murderous terrorists.  The rabid right wingers anywhere,  will not make me change my allegiance by falsely claiming that I support terrorists.

I support Law & Order  and nothing but.   

 

2 hours ago, Axe said:

Just confirms the Labour party do not have the discipline to be in government.

Hard luck then, because they still will be whether you like it or not.

2 hours ago, Axe said:

Very impressed with James Cleverly interviews this morning.  Hopefully he will introduce a new law to ban terrorists sympathisers and anyone else from climbing on War memorials.  It is outrageous the police did not arrest the person flying the Palestine flag on the War memorial.  He should be deported.

Got to  define terrorist sympathiser first because you lot don't understand what certain words mean.

[cressida]

1 minute ago, Organgrinder said:

I agree with stopping people defacing war memorials etc and wouldn't argue with that.

What worries me is the phrase  "terrorist sympathisers"  which means a lot of different things to different people.

It seems to be commonly thought that people such as myself who are upset at what's happening to the innocent Palestinian people are "terrorist sympathisers"

I have no sympathy for terrorists at all,  and I'm as disgusted as everyone else at their brutality. 

The ordinary people of Palestine are peaceful people who don't even have an army and who wish to live their lives in peace. 

They have been oppressed, imprisoned and killed  in their own land,  by the Israeli's and had their homes and farms taken from them to give to Jewish settlers for over 70 years.

These are the people I sympathise with and NOT murderous terrorists.  The rabid right wingers anywhere,  will not make me change my allegiance by falsely claiming that I support terrorists.

I support Law & Order  and nothing but.   

 

Yes I know,  I have never had you down as a terrorist sympathiser,  like me you support an end to the killing of innocent civilians especially the women/children'babies.

[Organgrinder]

24 minutes ago, Findlay said:

 

Another one without the intelligence to write a few words,  and tell us what he's trying to say.  Lots of them about.

[Mister M]

20 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

I agree with stopping people defacing war memorials etc and wouldn't argue with that.

What worries me is the phrase  "terrorist sympathisers"  which means a lot of different things to different people.

It seems to be commonly thought that people such as myself who are upset at what's happening to the innocent Palestinian people are "terrorist sympathisers"

I have no sympathy for terrorists at all,  and I'm as disgusted as everyone else at their brutality. 

The ordinary people of Palestine are peaceful people who don't even have an army and who wish to live their lives in peace. 

They have been oppressed, imprisoned and killed  in their own land,  by the Israeli's and had their homes and farms taken from them to give to Jewish settlers for over 70 years.

These are the people I sympathise with and NOT murderous terrorists.  The rabid right wingers anywhere,  will not make me change my allegiance by falsely claiming that I support terrorists.

I support Law & Order  and nothing but.   

 

Hard luck then, because they still will be whether you like it or not.

Got to  define terrorist sympathiser first because you lot don't understand what certain words mean.

Agreed. It was only yesterday in an interview which I heard on the radio that John McDonnell was condemning the actions of Hamas in the strongest possible terms.

[cressida]

@ O.G. and Axe,

 

Steady on,  the situation has to be considered calmly,  I'd be interested in what the U.N. 's current position is now.

Edited November 16 by cressida