Jack Grey #5197 Posted November 16 2 hours ago, altus said: You were arguing MPs should vote with their leader a couple of hours ago, now you're arguing they should be the voice of their constituents. Do try to be a little bit consistent. I said that they represent their constituents They should toe the party line or keep quiet for the good of the party Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder #5198 Posted November 16 1 minute ago, Jack Grey said: I said that they represent their constituents They should toe the party line or keep quiet for the good of the party You don't seem to know what you're saying. If the party line differs from what their constituents want, then how can they represent their constituents and still toe the party line ? If I had my way, party whips would be abolished and every MP would represent their constituents before the party. Unfortunately, it works the other way round. Maybe we would get a bit closer to democracy then. The constituents are the ones who put them in their seats and NOT the party whips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Al Bundy #5199 Posted November 16 Well done Kier. Showing some balls. 👏👏👏👏 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid #5200 Posted November 16 5 hours ago, Organgrinder said: If the party line differs from what their constituents want, then how can they represent their constituents and still toe the party line ? If I had my way, party whips would be abolished and every MP would represent their constituents before the party. Unfortunately, it works the other way round. Maybe we would get a bit closer to democracy then. The constituents are the ones who put them in their seats and NOT the party whips. How would a party ever increase taxes or cut funding, if it was unpopular with constituents? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Axe #5201 Posted November 16 12 hours ago, Blimp said: quick update - on SMP's ceasefire vote 56 labour MP's have defied rubberband man and voted for it - will he sack them? (probably not) Just confirms the Labour party do not have the discipline to be in government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M #5202 Posted November 16 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Axe said: Just confirms the Labour party do not have the discipline to be in government. Boris and the cabinet watching the TV in December 2019 of all the deaths in Italy: "ha haha ha ha ha" Edited November 16 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Axe #5203 Posted November 16 Very impressed with James Cleverly interviews this morning. Hopefully he will introduce a new law to ban terrorists sympathisers and anyone else from climbing on War memorials. It is outrageous the police did not arrest the person flying the Palestine flag on the War memorial. He should be deported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cressida #5204 Posted November 16 2 minutes ago, Axe said: Very impressed with James Cleverly interviews this morning. Hopefully he will introduce a new law to ban terrorists sympathisers and anyone else from climbing on War memorials. It is outrageous the police did not arrest the person flying the Palestine flag on the War memorial. He should be deported. It's an insult to the veterans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Axe #5205 Posted November 16 6 minutes ago, cressida said: It's an insult to the veterans. If any veterans had been around at the time then the culprit would have required police protection. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Al Bundy #5206 Posted November 16 40 minutes ago, Axe said: If any veterans had been around at the time then the culprit would have required police protection. Did this really happen as there is nothing in the Guardian about it? 🤔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Prettytom #5207 Posted November 16 9 hours ago, hackey lad said: No anger from the Labour voters on here about this dissent in the party ? Why would anyone be angry about people acting on principle? We need more of that sort of thing. Off you pop to compare Jess Phillips’ resignation letter with Braverman’s. Then you decide which party has a problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Findlay #5208 Posted November 16 It seems the rabid islamic rhetoric of labour MPs (who quit) are demanding a ceasefire in Gaza with "The Fox" being ignored. Our MPs are supposed to be a voice of the people but also a voice of reason. Will these MPs have the courage to tell their constituents they are being lied to about gaza and treat like donkeys by people who have no care for them and only their cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...