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On ‎28‎/‎11‎/‎2020 at 06:52, Pettytom said:

Maybe it is where they came from.
 

What did the EHRC report have to say about how they were dealt with?

Are you implying that the EHRC is politically neutral?  How's that investigation into Tory Islamophobia coming along?

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52 minutes ago, Flanker7 said:

I searched and failed to find the 'Loughborough' report - No link given by you. 

My search , ("Loughborough University election media report") did reveal loads though. Could it be this one?

 

"Academics at Loughborough University analysed the extent to which different print outlets ran positive and negative stories about different UK political parties in the first week of the 2019 general election campaign.

They found that the Labour Party was overwhelmingly targeted with negative coverage by the papers, while in certain publications positive stories were almost exclusively reserved for Boris Johnson’s Tory party.

 

The study also showed that the most positive coverage of the Tories came from the highest circulation newspapers, with journalists at The Sun and the Daily Mail relied upon to write deferential, pro-government stories."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-british-uk-media-news-bias-tories-labour-a9209026.html

 

I note you mention 'air time' and 'all platforms'. Previously we had been talking about the print media.

I agree - Labour had its chance, twice, and blew it both times. But it will get another chance and we can only hope the Press will have 'levelled up' by then . . . . . .but I'm not holding my breath.

no doubt at all the press will be a lot kinder to the now new Labour party, after all i doubt very much that under Starmer  they will be offering anything different to what the tories are offering, you will even probably get the Sun backing him like they did Tony Blair

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46 minutes ago, CaptainSwing said:

Are you implying that the EHRC is politically neutral?  How's that investigation into Tory Islamophobia coming along?

I’m asking you how the Labour Party dealt with the anti semites, whatever their source, under Corbyn.

 

You suggested that they might be £3 Tory entryists trying to discredit him. The EHRC are very critical of the way they were dealt with, or rather, not dealt with.

 

Shooting the messenger won’t work, by the way. It is much better to listen to the message.

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16 hours ago, banjodeano said:

you will even probably get the Sun backing him like they did Tony Blair

And Harald Wilson in ‘66, ‘70 and ‘74.

 

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This comment about Corbyn “fans” has just been raised on another thread. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/nov/26/bbc-defends-comics-bomb-glastonbury-joke-about-corbyn-fans

 

I’ve long wondered if the Corbynista mentality was more of a turn-off for voters than his personality and policies.

 

Something for them to chew over.

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8 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said:

This comment about Corbyn “fans” has just been raised on another thread. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/nov/26/bbc-defends-comics-bomb-glastonbury-joke-about-corbyn-fans

 

I’ve long wondered if the Corbynista mentality was more of a turn-off for voters than his personality and policies.

 

Something for them to chew over.

It will also be interesting to see if Corbyn's fans treat it as a joke or are still bringing it up over a year from now like right wing people do at similar jokes aimed at their favourites.

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36 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said:

This comment about Corbyn “fans” has just been raised on another thread. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/nov/26/bbc-defends-comics-bomb-glastonbury-joke-about-corbyn-fans

 

I’ve long wondered if the Corbynista mentality was more of a turn-off for voters than his personality and policies.

 

Something for them to chew over.

Useful deflection.

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9 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Useful deflection.

From?
 

As I say; something to chew over.

 

I’ve heard it said, from some, that Labour was very close to winning in 2019.  How ironic if the Corbynistas deterred just enough voters that otherwise would have swung it for Labour and saved the UK from the Conservative Government they so despise.  And hilarious.

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17 hours ago, Arnold_Lane said:

From?
 

As I say; something to chew over.

 

I’ve heard it said, from some, that Labour was very close to winning in 2019.  How ironic if the Corbynistas deterred just enough voters that otherwise would have swung it for Labour and saved the UK from the Conservative Government they so despise.  And hilarious.

Having knocked on a few doors for the GE I can attest to the fact that most voters were more concerned about Brexit than Corbyn. Here in Hallam, which we held, this proved decisive as there is a high percentage of voters who realised the Lib Dems were a lost cause and the Tories wanted to plunge us into a no-deal Brexit.

From discussion forums I frequent, activists in other seats which were previously Labour confirmed that it was Brexit "wot done it". The lies that were told in the 2016 Referendum were repeated by the Tories up and down the country and people subsequently voted for them in order to "Get Brexit Done".

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18 hours ago, Arnold_Lane said:

From?
 

As I say; something to chew over.

 

I’ve heard it said, from some, that Labour was very close to winning in 2019,  hilarious.

Corrected your sentence for you 

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So much for uniting the party, it now appears that Starmer is now stifling free speech, no one is allowed to show solidarity with Corbyn, this is suddenly becoming a dictatorship,

TWO more senior Constituency Labour Party (CLP) officials have been suspended for making comments in support of Jeremy Corbyn and against the clampdown on freedom of speech within Labour.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/chingford-and-woodford-green-clp-chairs-suspended?fbclid=IwAR3ci3KH-f2G0ZqMXckQefXXSDMWKiAVhsslZXL3f1zg4gZZ458cHxxIjos#.X8lJrrQDp-k.facebook

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