Jump to content RIP Sheffield Admin Mort


The Labour Party - Part 2

Groose

People who get personal with any further attacks in the thread will be suspended. As will any individuals using wording like Smarmer instead of Starmer etc.

Message added by Groose

Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, Pettytom said:

What do you think to the figures in that report.

 

Are you comfortable with them?

 

Can you see a trend?

I think it totally ridicules your claim of wide spread institutionally racism within the party, 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

I think it totally ridicules your claim of wide spread institutionally racism within the party, 

Why do you think that?

 

I saw a party beginning to tackle a serious issue. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is so institutionally racist that Jewish members of the party have started a campaign to get Corbyn reinstated.

He has a tremendous amount of support from several Jewish bodies and communities. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, Anna B said:

It is so institutionally racist that Jewish members of the party have started a campaign to get Corbyn reinstated.

He has a tremendous amount of support from several Jewish bodies and communities. 

Have you got a link for that?  Searching only brings this up for me:
 

Jewish Labour Movement condemns Corbyn's readmission

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/17/jewish-labour-movement-condemns-corbyn-readmission

 

 

4 hours ago, banjodeano said:

I do get to pull you up, because you use the term institutional racism, that is completely wrong, 

But is it?

 

Labour's institutional racism must be tackled before it destroys the party

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/07/labours-institutional-racism-must-be-tackled-it-destroys-party

 

Dawn Butler says watchdog likely to find Labour ‘guilty of institutional racism’

https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/dawn-butler-says-watchdog-likely-to-find-labour-guilty-of-institutional-racism/

Edited by alchresearch

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
53 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

I think it totally ridicules your claim of wide spread institutionally racism within the party, 

Did you read the report though?  You do have a history of telling people to read reports but later admitting you haven’t read it fully yourself.  Need reminding?

Edited by Arnold_Lane

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, banjodeano said:

I think it totally ridicules your claim of wide spread institutionally racism within the party, 

You do understand that “institutional “ and “widespread “ mean different things, don’t you? I don’t think I’ve ever said that this was widespread, it is certainly institutional.

 

149 members removed from the party in 2019. Take a look at the number of cases and the number of expulsions after Corbyn was dumped. Why are the numbers so different? Why are the processes more robust now?

 

If you aren’t part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

47 minutes ago, Anna B said:

It is so institutionally racist that Jewish members of the party have started a campaign to get Corbyn reinstated.

He has a tremendous amount of support from several Jewish bodies and communities. 

It is so institutionally racist that it is required by law to produce an action plan to combat the racism. 
 

I’m ashamed of that, you should be too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Pettytom said:

You do understand that “institutional “ and “widespread “ mean different things, don’t you? I don’t think I’ve ever said that this was widespread, it is certainly institutional.

 

149 members removed from the party in 2019. Take a look at the number of cases and the number of expulsions after Corbyn was dumped. Why are the numbers so different? Why are the processes more robust now?

 

If you aren’t part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

It is so institutionally racist that it is required by law to produce an action plan to combat the racism. 
 

I’m ashamed of that, you should be too.

And you don't understand percentages...

Take for example if you were in a working man's club, and there were a couple of hundred people enjoying themselves, but there were two people at the back shouldn't racist abuse at the comedian, would you say the club was institutionally racist, ? Or there were two drunks in the pub?

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, banjodeano said:

And you don't understand percentages...

Take for example if you were in a working man's club, and there were a couple of hundred people enjoying themselves, but there were two people at the back shouldn't racist abuse at the comedian, would you say the club was institutionally racist, ? Or there were two drunks in the pub?

 

Depends if the pub throws them out.

 

Do the other patrons deny there was racist abuse or say it was exaggerated?

 

Do other patrons suggest the racists were sent by a rival brewery to stir up problems?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said:

Depends if the pub throws them out.

 

Do the other patrons deny there was racist abuse or say it was exaggerated?

 

Do other patrons suggest the racists were sent by a rival brewery to stir up problems?

Saved me a job. Thanks😀

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Arnold_Lane said:

Depends if the pub throws them out.

 

Do the other patrons deny there was racist abuse or say it was exaggerated?

 

Do other patrons suggest the racists were sent by a rival brewery to stir up problems?

Don't forget that anyone reporting about the problem must be financially influenced, therefore biased against the owner of the pub.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, banjodeano said:

And you don't understand percentages...

Take for example if you were in a working man's club, and there were a couple of hundred people enjoying themselves, but there were two people at the back shouldn't racist abuse at the comedian, would you say the club was institutionally racist, ? Or there were two drunks in the pub?

 

The manager kicks the racists out and puts up a sign 'Racism will not be tolerated on these premises'.

 

But, far from supporting him in these efforts, the pubco begins a smear campaign to the effect that it's in fact the manager who is the racist.  They want him out so that they can redevelop the property.

 

The former pub is now a block of nice designer apartments.

Edited by CaptainSwing

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.