The Labour Party - Part 2

[Anna B 1,414]

Just now, hackey lad said:

Yet you defend him  

Me? I can't stand him. He had a golden opportunity to unite the party by working with Corbyn, instead he's split it right down the middle by expelling all the socialists from a Socialist party.

[hackey lad 3,965]

15 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Me? I can't stand him. He had a golden opportunity to unite the party by working with Corbyn, instead he's split it right down the middle by expelling all the socialists from a Socialist party.

You defend Starmer constantly . Post 2962 for a start 

Edited June 29, 2022 by hackey lad

[Anna B 1,414]

11 hours ago, hackey lad said:

You defend Starmer constantly . Post 2962 for a start 

Hardly. But Starmer is a straight bat compared to Boris. 

 

However, it's no secret I am no fan of Starmer, for reasons I've already explained. 

He's Neoliberal through and through. If elected he will change nothing. 

 

Labour needs a new leader.

Edited June 30, 2022 by Anna B

[RollingJ 2,022]

2 minutes ago, Anna B said:

 

Labour needs a new leader.

Who?

[Anna B 1,414]

2 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Who?

Good question.

[alchresearch 214]

3 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Who?

This fella seems to have his finger on the pulse at the moment, I say him!

 

Tony Blair says Labour has ‘recovered’ as he dismisses need for new party
Keir Starmer ‘doing an amazing job’ but voters still confused about what party stands for, says former PM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/30/tony-blair-labour-recovery-new-party-keir-starmer

 

I know some consider him the devil, and I myself had a hard time supporting him after the second Gulf war, but he does continue to make valid points.

[RollingJ 2,022]

4 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

This fella seems to have his finger on the pulse at the moment, I say him!

 

Tony Blair says Labour has ‘recovered’ as he dismisses need for new party
Keir Starmer ‘doing an amazing job’ but voters still confused about what party stands for, says former PM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/30/tony-blair-labour-recovery-new-party-keir-starmer

 

I know some consider him the devil, and I myself had a hard time supporting him after the second Gulf war, but he does continue to make valid points.

No way. Sorry, but I wouldn't trust him any further than I could throw him.

[crookesey 633]

4 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

No way. Sorry, but I wouldn't trust him any further than I could throw him.

Tony Blair was absolutely brilliant at winning General Elections, other than that let me think ————————————————still thinking.

[Anna B 1,414]

7 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

No way. Sorry, but I wouldn't trust him any further than I could throw him.

I agree. Anyone who took us into an injust war against the wishes of huge swathes of the population, then made millions out of selling arms to the same unstable countries in the name of 'peace envoy' is certainly not to be trusted.

Edited June 30, 2022 by Anna B

[RollingJ 2,022]

8 minutes ago, crookesey said:

Tony Blair was absolutely brilliant at winning General Elections, other than that let me think ————————————————still thinking.

Sadly, I have to admit I voted Labour (the one and only time) when he became PM, as he initially sounded like a new kind of politician - how stupid was I?

[Anna B 1,414]

29 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Sadly, I have to admit I voted Labour (the one and only time) when he became PM, as he initially sounded like a new kind of politician - how stupid was I?

Blair was young, he was different, he was a very charismatic man, I too voted for him. Times were also very different then, we were surfing on the crest of a wave. So I think we can be forgiven.

 

But we took our eye off the ball, and now with the results of 40 years of free market economics which he willingly bought into, and a fundamental Conservative move to the far right having done us enormous damage, we badly need to rebalance the status quo and put people first.

 

Multi millionaire Tony Blair is not the man to be giving advice. Rather he needs to take some responsibility for the mess we're in.   

Edited June 30, 2022 by Anna B

[RollingJ 2,022]

Just now, Anna B said:

He was young, he was different, he was a very charismatic man, I too voted for him. Times were also very different then, we were surfing on the crest of a wave. So I think we can be forgiven.

 

But we took our eye off the ball, and now with the results of 40 years of free market economics which he willingly bought into, and a fundamental Conservative move to the far right having done us enormous damage, we badly need to rebalance the status quo and put people first.

 

Multi millionaire Tony Blair is not the man to be giving advice. Rather he needs to take some responsibility for the mess we're in.   

I agree with most of that - but maybe not all the middle paragraph.