The Labour Party - Part 2

[crookesey 635]

21 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

you mean if they are attacked on the land that they stole?

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/exclusive-israel-commits-war-crimes-crimes-against-humanity-american-jewish-scholar/2238903#

I don’t lose any sleep about being blown up by Israeli Fundamentalists, call me what you like but I know who the enemy is.

[Anna B 1,414]

9 minutes ago, crookesey said:

I don’t lose any sleep about being blown up by Israeli Fundamentalists, call me what you like but I know who the enemy is.

Once again you're looking at everything in black and white. The world is a lot more nuanced than that. 

And remember there are fundamentalists in every religion/ creed/ culture.

[banjodeano 31]

12 minutes ago, crookesey said:

I don’t lose any sleep about being blown up by Israeli Fundamentalists, call me what you like but I know who the enemy is.

as long as you are happy  with genocide being committed and are happy with it, sleep well in your bed...

but just out of interest , what was your response to my question that i asked...

Because they lost 6 million people in the Holocaust it does not automatically give them any right to commit acts of genocide and break international law, or do you think it does?

[crookesey 635]

9 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

as long as you are happy  with genocide being committed and are happy with it, sleep well in your bed...

but just out of interest , what was your response to my question that i asked...

Because they lost 6 million people in the Holocaust it does not automatically give them any right to commit acts of genocide and break international law, or do you think it does?

Was 9/11 patriotism then?

[banjodeano 31]

11 minutes ago, crookesey said:

Was 9/11 patriotism then?

we are not talking about 9/11, we are talking about Israel committing atrocities, 

and again....

Because they lost 6 million people in the Holocaust it does not automatically give them any right to commit acts of genocide and break international law, or do you think it does?

[crookesey 635]

9 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

we are not talking about 9/11, we are talking about Israel committing atrocities, 

and again....

Because they lost 6 million people in the Holocaust it does not automatically give them any right to commit acts of genocide and break international law, or do you think it does?

I was.

[banjodeano 31]

2 minutes ago, crookesey said:

I was.

You seem to have gone all quiet now crookesey...

Ok, i will give it a last throw of the dice....its a pretty simple question, do you fancy a go at it? .......here we go again..

Because they lost 6 million people in the Holocaust it does not automatically give them any right to commit acts of genocide and break international law, or do you think it does?

to coin your phrase...... I suggest that you climb back into your box.

[crookesey 635]

4 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

You seem to have gone all quiet now crookesey...

Ok, i will give it a last throw of the dice....its a pretty simple question, do you fancy a go at it? .......here we go again..

Because they lost 6 million people in the Holocaust it does not automatically give them any right to commit acts of genocide and break international law, or do you think it does?

to coin your phrase...... I suggest that you climb back into your box.

I’ve never suffered from verbal diarrhoea, it must be very disconcerting.

[banjodeano 31]

26 minutes ago, crookesey said:

I’ve never suffered from verbal diarrhoea, it must be very disconcerting.

Hahahaha,

My work here is done, have a good evening fella

Edited October 30, 2021 by banjodeano

[sheffbag 230]

4 hours ago, Anna B said:

If you remember, prior to 2015, there was concern that so many people felt that way they too had stopped voting. We'd also seen the rise of organisations like Occupy (remeber them?) against the rise of the corporations (neoliberalism) 

The referendum vote I believe also reflected the general disatisfaction people were feeling.

 

In fact it was for exactly those reasons Jeremy Corbyn, a backbench MP, stood for leadership of the Labour Party at all, to give people a real choice. rather than more Blairite neoliberalism. Nobody thought he could win, but he was different, and he galvanised debate and came out the clear leader with a huge following. 

The Neoliberal plan had come up against an obstacle that had to be got rid of.  So the Neoliberal/Establishment owned media swung into action with a smear campaign like no other.

 

They succeeded. Corbyn was eliminated and replaced with Stooge Starmer, and normal service was resumed.

 I too will not be voting in the next election. 

 

 

Did he ********, he got in because the unions wanted to go back to the 70s with him. 
 

why not vote for the socialist candidate instead? Surely they are more in keeping with your feeling. Never mind, another non labour vote increases the chance of a non labour mp getting in at your ward.

 

but to go back a couple of pages, when did you fall out with Angela Raynor? 

Edited October 30, 2021 by sheffbag

[crookesey 635]

‘He who pays the piper calls the tune’ has always been the case, irrespective of which party is in power. Sheffield has replaced it’s traditional  working class Labour vote to one of the well paid, well pensioned pen pushers, shipped in nationally. However not everywhere is the same, sadly for the unions they picked a ‘left of Lenin’ candidate who struggles with the 21st century, the rest is history.

[Tony 10]

On 29/10/2021 at 20:58, banjodeano said:

you dont seem fine Tony......

so what do you think, if someone was half Jewish, would it be on the left half or the right half?

I'll explain. What you did, instead of addressing the facts in the headline, was to blame the messenger by saying that it can't be trusted because it is the Jewish Chronicle. 

 

 

That is anti-Semitism. You are an anti-Semite, whether accidental or deliberate.

 

 

 

I've never found it very productive to tell racists, or anyone for that matter, that they are stupid. But I have found it very productive to expose their racism to everyone else. It's exactly how we ran the BNP and other racists off Sheffield Forum, and pretty much out of the wider Sheffield political discussion over a decade ago. Not by humouring them or even by censoring tor cancelling hem, but by letting them damn themselves with their very own words and deeds. 

 

It should be starting to sink in by now that you are an anti-Semite. You're the only one who can put that right along with your fellow travellers on that dark path who beef you up on here.