The Labour Party - Part 2

[Mister M 1,624]

Keir Starmer on Twitter: "The scenes in Clapham this evening are deeply disturbing. Women came together to mourn Sarah Everard - they should have been able to do so peacefully. I share their anger and upset at how this has been handled. This was not the way to police this protest." / Twitter

 

Arrests as protesters clash with police at Sarah Everard vigil in Clapham (msn.com)

 

I totally agree with him. I think the Met Police have been heavy handed

 

Edited March 13, 2021 by Mister M

[Delbow 699]

Yeah, at least he's got something right. The police using violence to break up a vigil for a victim of a police officer's alleged sexual violence is thoroughly disturbing. 

[ECCOnoob 1,030]

6 hours ago, Mister M said:

Keir Starmer on Twitter: "The scenes in Clapham this evening are deeply disturbing. Women came together to mourn Sarah Everard - they should have been able to do so peacefully. I share their anger and upset at how this has been handled. This was not the way to police this protest." / Twitter

 

Arrests as protesters clash with police at Sarah Everard vigil in Clapham (msn.com)

 

I totally agree with him. I think the Met Police have been heavy handed

 

Brave of him to put his head above the parapet but he may well live to regret those words.  Not everyone is on the same page with this one.    

 

Lets see how well Starmer fares next time he starts doing grandiose statements criticising the governemnt for easing lockdown rules too early or allowing people go mix too quickly or tries to make bold claims about upholding and enforcing  the rule of law considering his (former) colleagues in the judiciary made a very clear ruling on this vigil gathering not to go ahead.   Even the organisers and victim's family themselves clearly told people not to attend.   Its inevitable there will be people and certain media just waiting to throw his own words back at him. 

 

From a different angle it could be seen that Starmer is having a nice little dig at those brave officers who were protecting the public, enforcing the strict Covid lockdown rules and simply doing their jobs by stopping an illegal gathering.  Even more so when (if other videos taken are true) those police were being verbally and physical attacked by a small number of attendees who were trying to turn a respectful vigil into an aggressive protest. 

 

Of course, how the Met have performed is for quite rightly to be challenged and investigated but only with full facts and full context.   MPs rushing to jump on the bandwaggon with bold statements and grandstanding may lead to wider consequences.   The man is a senior experienced lawyer and former head of the CPS.  He should be well aware of that. 

Edited March 14, 2021 by ECCOnoob

[El Cid 216]

5 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Brave of him to put his head above the parapet but he may well live to regret those words.  Not everyone is on the same page with this one.    

That is why being in opposition at the moment is so difficult.

[altus 540]

8 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Brave of him to put his head above the parapet but he may well live to regret those words.  Not everyone is on the same page with this one.

He's on the same page as the Duchess of Cambridge, who attended the vigil in person. Any criticism of his reaction will also be seen as an implicit criticism of her. That will temper the actions of those wishing to make political capital out of his comments.

[Delbow 699]

46 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The Labour leader should be supporting the Met Police.  Thousands of people who have followed the rules and laws relating to covid-19 haven't been able to mourn members of their own family because they didn't attend family funerals due to the restrictions.  Those attending the unlawful vigil were not members of the victim's family.  By all means hold events once covid-19 restrictions are lifted but not before.

 

The Duchess of Cambridge should have been arrested for breaking covid-19 laws in my opinion.

Funny how police forces everywhere else there was a vigil managed not to engage in macho violence against women. Looks like the Met has a problem.

[El Cid 216]

8 minutes ago, Delbow said:

Funny how police forces everywhere else there was a vigil managed not to engage in macho violence against women. Looks like the Met has a problem.

Is the trouble related to gender, that could be the issue

[MrAllen2K21 0]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

The Labour leader should be supporting the Met Police.  Thousands of people who have followed the rules and laws relating to covid-19 haven't been able to mourn members of their own family because they didn't attend family funerals due to the restrictions.  Those attending the unlawful vigil were not members of the victim's family.  By all means hold events once covid-19 restrictions are lifted but not before.

 

The Duchess of Cambridge should have been arrested for breaking covid-19 laws in my opinion.

Oh come on, you know the Royal family are exempt from being arrested for ANYTHING!

 

[nikki-red 308]

Back on topic please.

[apelike 10]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

The Labour leader should be supporting the Met Police.  Thousands of people who have followed the rules and laws relating to covid-19 haven't been able to mourn members of their own family because they didn't attend family funerals due to the restrictions.  Those attending the unlawful vigil were not members of the victim's family.  By all means hold events once covid-19 restrictions are lifted but not before.

 

The Duchess of Cambridge should have been arrested for breaking covid-19 laws in my opinion.

Agreed, but it's more about publicity for her and Will's at the moment and the same goes for Starmer as he at least should know about the law. Notice how much the two Royals have been in the news lately since the Oprah interview.

 

Unfortunately some people seem to think they are above the law and break it when they see fit. They were told in advance not to do it and yet ignored the advice from the Met. The organisers and some that attended say they had a fundamental human right to protest but that right was temporarily put on hold with the introduction of the covid regulations by the conservative government.

Edited March 14, 2021 by apelike

[Delbow 699]

But if they broke the law in a "limited and specific way" then that's ok - the Attorney General said so.

[apelike 10]

27 minutes ago, Delbow said:

But if they broke the law in a "limited and specific way" then that's ok - the Attorney General said so.

Was that in regards to this vigil or to do with breaking international law vis a vie the Brexit divorce deal and internal market rules? These covid domestic laws were brought in by this government and passed by parliament including Labour MPs. Starmer as head of Labour and also being a lawyer, should know what they mean. As someone has already pointed out the Labour leader should be supporting the police for closing down what was an illegal gathering of hundreds of people.

Edited March 14, 2021 by apelike