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23 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said:

It's perfectly clear what point I was making.  I'm not sure what point you are making in response.  Is it the best you can do?

This really isn't a great defence to the charge that Labour and some of it's supporters have a problem with anti-Semitism.

 

It’s not a good look is it!

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51 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Well Rupert Murdoch seems to think so, 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/nov/19/rupert-murdoch-jews-twitter

but I wouldn't know.

 

And as outraged Jewish multi millionaire Margaret Hodge has been instrumental in bringing the charges, I'd hardly say she was secular.

That’s a pretty grotesque comment. 

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Well Rupert Murdoch seems to think so, 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/nov/19/rupert-murdoch-jews-twitter

but I wouldn't know.

 

And as outraged Jewish multi millionaire Margaret Hodge has been instrumental in bringing the charges, I'd hardly say she was secular.

Dear me this is an appalling comment. You need to educate yourself as this sums up the whole problem within the Labour left and their denial of anti-Jewish racism.


Do you really think you can defend Corbyn’s response to anti-semitism by being racist yourself? !


There is no justification for these type of comments whatsoever but at least you have shown your true (racist) colours for all to see.
 

I went to a synagogue in Sheffield with my sons cubs group and was astounded to see they needed 2 burly security guards at the entrance due to threats they had been receiving, I guess it’s because of the fear people like you are spreading - I suggest you think carefully about that.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Anna B said:

He was as capable as Starmer, but the anti-semitism claims will probably stop with Starmer, not because he is any more effective at rooting them out, but because the likes of people like Margaret Hodge and her journalist/editor daughter do not have a vendetta against Starmer, and will stop endlessly stirring it up.

 

He, (Starmer) is part of their club.  

Last time you posted the "it's a jewish conspiracy" anti-semitic trope I dismissed it as you being well meaning but naive. I can no longer think you are either of those. If you are going to repeatedly post anti-semitic tropes people will inevitably think it's because you yourself are anti-semitic - after all, what other reason could there be?.

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40 minutes ago, altus said:

Last time you posted the "it's a jewish conspiracy" anti-semitic trope I dismissed it as you being well meaning but naive. I can no longer think you are either of those. If you are going to repeatedly post anti-semitic tropes people will inevitably think it's because you yourself are anti-semitic - after all, what other reason could there be?.

I have never posted "it's a Jewish conspiracy," and take great exception to it.

I am no more anti-semitic than Jeremy Corbyn. And as he is no anti-semitic, I am proud to say that, and stand with him.

 

Arnold Lane was the first to mention Margaret Hodge was Jewish. I didn't mention it. 

However I responded with the fact that she is Jewish. Nothing wrong with that at all, except that IMO she has used it to destroy Corbyn, by playing the race card. But I assume that in your opinion that makes her unassailable and above any criticism.

 

She is also a multi-millionaire and refore therefore is Establishment and a powerful enemy of Corbyn working from within the Labour party to destroy him. That is pretty contemptable of someone actually in the Labour party trying to bring about his downfall and especially ironic considering Labour supporters are now being urged to stand together behind Starmer.

 

Her daughter is  journalist and the deputy News Editor of BBC News at 6 and BBC News at10 and Executive Producer of BBC Newsnight, and therefore decides what stories are covered. That ives her a great deal of influence in the media.

 

 

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Just now, Anna B said:

I have never posted "it's a Jewish conspiracy," and take great exception to it.

I am no more anti-semitic than Jeremy Corbyn. And as he is no anti-semitic, I am proud to say that, and stand with him.

 

Arnold Lane was the first to mention Margaret Hodge was Jewish. I didn't mention it. 

However I responded with the fact that she is Jewish. Nothing wrong with that at all, except that IMO she has used it to destroy Corbyn, by playing the race card. But I assume that in your opinion that makes her unassailable and above any criticism.

 

She is also a multi-millionaire and refore therefore is Establishment and a powerful enemy of Corbyn working from within the Labour party to destroy him. That is pretty contemptable of someone actually in the Labour party trying to bring about his downfall and especially ironic considering Labour supporters are now being urged to stand together behind Starmer.

 

Her daughter is  journalist and the deputy News Editor of BBC News at 6 and BBC News at10 and Executive Producer of BBC Newsnight, and therefore decides what stories are covered. That ives her a great deal of influence in the media.

 

 

Put the shovel down Anna.

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1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

Put the shovel down Anna.

Good advice.

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this is very interesting..

 

Keir Starmer has quickly moved to exploit the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s (EHRC) report into alleged anti-semitism within the Labour Party.

Today’s events are eerily reminiscent of June 2016, when right wing Labour MPs exploited the Brexit referendum result to launch the infamous – and highly orchestrated – ‘chicken coup’ against Corbyn.

And yet, despite what the mainstream media tells us, the EHRC report says nothing to back up the claims about Labour being institutionally anti-semitic. In fact, the document notes that the party improved its handling of such cases under Corbyn’s leadership. 

The only substantial finding against the party is ironically a product of the relentless campaign against the left by its right wing. The only instances of political interference into anti-semitism complaints, the report states, were when Corbyn’s office intervened to push for stronger punishments against alleged perpetrators of anti-semitism in the party!

 

 

https://www.socialist.net/corbyn-suspension-this-means-war.htm?language=en-GB

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21 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

this is very interesting..

 

Keir Starmer has quickly moved to exploit the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s (EHRC) report into alleged anti-semitism within the Labour Party.

Today’s events are eerily reminiscent of June 2016, when right wing Labour MPs exploited the Brexit referendum result to launch the infamous – and highly orchestrated – ‘chicken coup’ against Corbyn.

And yet, despite what the mainstream media tells us, the EHRC report says nothing to back up the claims about Labour being institutionally anti-semitic. In fact, the document notes that the party improved its handling of such cases under Corbyn’s leadership. 

The only substantial finding against the party is ironically a product of the relentless campaign against the left by its right wing. The only instances of political interference into anti-semitism complaints, the report states, were when Corbyn’s office intervened to push for stronger punishments against alleged perpetrators of anti-semitism in the party!

 

 

https://www.socialist.net/corbyn-suspension-this-means-war.htm?language=en-GB

In which case, why did Corbyn not accept the findings?

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