Mister Gee   797 #313 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, despritdan said: This verdict was a victory for mob rule, not democracy and where you have mob rule, you have a climate of fear. I always thought the job of juries was to look at the evidence and then pass a verdict of innocent or guilty, based on the law but if that isn't the case, what's the point of them? Only the jurors know why they voted the way they did. Maybe they agreed with the mob in which case they were making a moral judgement or maybe they were frightened of repercussions and didn't fancy having a howling mob of woke fanatics outside their homes, threatening and abusing them and their families with a police force too frightened to intervene.  Those pictures and videos of the mob in action reminded me of the descriptions of the Gordon riots in 'Barnaby Rudge' by Charles Dickens and it seems we're being dragged back to those days. There's an increasing climate of fear hovering over this country like a large, black cloud getting bigger and bigger with no one daring to point to it. Nobody dares to criticize Islam, to suggest that decades of mass immigration hasn't been as enriching for the country as we're constantly being told it has been, to express opinions that aren't politically correct, to say they prefer our own cultural identity to multi-culturalism or to say they preferred this country the way it was in the 60s and 70s to how it is now. The verdict may not have set a legal precedent but it does encourage more mob rule as it suggests the mob are above the law.   What a cavalcade of bobbar, the above is just another case of a right wing bonehead stoking the culture wars narrative. Edited January 9, 2022 by Mister Gee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Waldo   96 #314 Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: What a cavalcade of bobbar, the above is just another case of a right wing bonehead stoking the culture wars narrative. Ironically, you’re unwittingly making his point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   797 #315 Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Waldo said: Ironically, you’re unwittingly making his point. How do you know he’s a bloke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   797 #316 Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, West 77 said: Having the name "dan" contained in his user name is a bit of a give away the poster is a bloke. Did you have to wear the Dunce's hat every week when you were at school? Now that’s called banter, Dan could be short for Danielle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,600 #317 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Waldo said: Ironically, you’re unwittingly making his point. Just ignore HE/HER/IT  Theyre a troll that comes out from under their bridge every now and again to talk nonsense Edited January 9, 2022 by Jack Grey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Caswall   7 #318 Posted January 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: What a cavalcade of bobbar, the above is just another case of a right wing bonehead stoking the culture wars narrative. While others among us think desprtitdan describes matters quite accurately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   797 #319 Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, West 77 said: Hardly likely just like the Desperate Dan statue in Dundee which hasn't been toppled by a lawless mob is a bloke and not a female. 🤣🤣 Da gets dafter by the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   797 #320 Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Caswall said: While others among us think desprtitdan describes matters quite accurately. That doesn’t come as a surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Caswall   7 #321 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mister Gee said: That doesn’t come as a surprise. Nor should it - unless one expects everybody posting on SF to have a liberal/left mindset? Edited January 9, 2022 by Caswall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #322 Posted January 9, 2022 5 hours ago, despritdan said: This verdict was a victory for mob rule, not democracy and where you have mob rule, you have a climate of fear. I always thought the job of juries was to look at the evidence and then pass a verdict of innocent or guilty, based on the law but if that isn't the case, what's the point of them? Only the jurors know why they voted the way they did. Maybe they agreed with the mob in which case they were making a moral judgement or maybe they were frightened of repercussions and didn't fancy having a howling mob of woke fanatics outside their homes, threatening and abusing them and their families with a police force too frightened to intervene. I can only imagine how terrifying it would be, this howling mob of woke fanatics outside your home.  I can picture the terror in your eyes, as you watch them holding hands, waving placards, eating vegetarian food and singing Kum Ba Yah.  Truly, it's the end of civilisation as we know it.      Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #323 Posted January 9, 2022 4 hours ago, despritdan said: This verdict was a victory for mob rule, not democracy and where you have mob rule, you have a climate of fear. This has nothing whatsoever to do with "democracy"  4 hours ago, despritdan said: I always thought the job of juries was to look at the evidence and then pass a verdict of innocent or guilty, based on the law but if that isn't the case, what's the point of them? Jurors, in part, ensure the law doesn't end up out of step with current morality.  They may feel, given the evidence, that a verdict based entirely on the law may be unjust.  Context is everything.  4 hours ago, despritdan said: Only the jurors know why they voted the way they did. Maybe they agreed with the mob in which case they were making a moral judgement ...as is their right.  4 hours ago, despritdan said: or maybe they were frightened of repercussions and didn't fancy having a howling mob of woke fanatics outside their homes, threatening and abusing them and their families with a police force too frightened to intervene. Yawn.  4 hours ago, despritdan said: Nobody dares to criticize Islam, to suggest that decades of mass immigration hasn't been as enriching for the country as we're constantly being told it has been, to express opinions that aren't politically correct, to say they prefer our own cultural identity to multi-culturalism or to say they preferred this country the way it was in the 60s and 70s to how it is now. More yawn.  4 hours ago, despritdan said: The verdict may not have set a legal precedent but it does encourage more mob rule as it suggests the mob are above the law. No, they explicitly aren't, they *were* prosecuted! They had their day in court and prevailed. 1 hour ago, West 77 said: The last time something like this happened was in 1991 when Michael Randle and Patrick Pottle were found not guilty of helping the traitor George Blake escape from prison even though both admitted they helped him escape. Nope: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56853979     Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,600 #324 Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Joker said: I can only imagine how terrifying it would be, this howling mob of woke fanatics outside your home.  I can picture the terror in your eyes, as you watch them holding hands, waving placards, eating vegetarian food and singing Kum Ba Yah.  Truly, it's the end of civilisation as we know it.      No one should be standing outside anyone's house  Its totally unacceptable behaviour thats obviously harassment and bullying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...