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1 minute ago, El Cid said:

Not many of those have broken the law. Its not against the law to be greedy, it helps countries to prosper.

To be fair both Cyril Smith and Jeremy Thorpe both did break the law which is a fairly high percentage rate of the names listed.  Both were never Tory MPs I will just add.

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3 hours ago, West 77 said:

I disagree with you Mister Gee, the revelations  show that David Cameron was a loyal employee of Lex Greenhill and sought to do his best to help his employer at an unprecedented time when business was suffering worldwide as a consequence of an once in one hundred year global pandemic. Loyalty  to ones employer is a good example to set regardless of whether you had a privileged  start in life or not.  I'm not suggesting David Cameron is a saint and the likelihood is he believed his job was a cushy lucrative position where he  wouldn't get his hands dirty.  However, due to the nature of politics and the  point scoring mentality  it looks like David Cameron has got his fingers burnt despite breaking no rules.

The revelations show that David Cameron is a greedy sod, and is only welcoming of the inquiries because he got found out.

Pity Matt Hancock found the time to have a meeting with Cameron, but who apparently doesn't have time to meet with representatives of the covid bereaved

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28 minutes ago, Mister M said:

The revelations show that David Cameron is a greedy sod, and is only welcoming of the inquiries because he got found out.

Pity Matt Hancock found the time to have a meeting with Cameron, but who apparently doesn't have time to meet with representatives of the covid bereaved

Oh dear you're getting even more desperate now to attack the Tories.  Matt Hancock met David Cameron in 2019 which is months before there were any covid bereaved.  Matt Hancock's work load increased substantially when it was known there was a global pandemic.  Matt Hancock has not broken any rules and told officials about the meeting and what was discussed.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Oh dear you're getting even more desperate now to attack the Tories.  Matt Hancock met David Cameron in 2019 which is months before there were any covid bereaved.  Matt Hancock's work load increased substantially when it was known there was a global pandemic.  Matt Hancock has not broken any rules and told officials about the meeting and what was discussed.

 

 

I'm not the one whose desperate. There are already 6 or 7 official inquiries into the affair. 

You're the one thrashing about trying to justify Cameron's greed and sleaze, resorting claims that the affair showed how 'loyal' he is. :hihi:

 

4 hours ago, West 77 said:

I disagree with you Mister Gee, the revelations  show that David Cameron was a loyal employee of Lex Greenhill and sought to do his best to help his employer at an unprecedented time when business was suffering worldwide as a consequence of an once in one hundred year global pandemic. Loyalty  to ones employer is a good example to set regardless of whether you had a privileged  start in life or not.  I'm not suggesting David Cameron is a saint and the likelihood is he believed his job was a cushy lucrative position where he  wouldn't get his hands dirty.  However, due to the nature of politics and the  point scoring mentality  it looks like David Cameron has got his fingers burnt despite breaking no rules.

 

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9 minutes ago, Mister M said:

I'm not the one whose desperate. There are already 6 or 7 official inquiries into the affair. 

You're the one thrashing about trying to justify Cameron's greed and sleaze, resorting claims that the affair showed how 'loyal' he is. :hihi:

 

 

I just stick to the real facts. It's a real fact that David Cameron was employed by Lex Greenhill and like anyone else he had a duty to his employer and to carry out work on behalf of the person or people paying his salary. It's a real fact it was impossible for Matt Hancock to meet with representatives of  the covid  bereaved at the time he met David Cameron because there were no covid bereaved at that time.  I'm not the desperate individual who uses every opportunity to attack the Tories.   It's a different issue whether the rules need changing to prevent former Prime Ministers taking on the role such as what David Cameron had with Greenhill Capital. 

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2 hours ago, West 77 said:

A good point well made.  Over 400 British jobs have been lost as a consequence of the collapse of Greenhill Capital.  If the business wasn't long term viable then it's correct the Government didn't give them any covid-19 related loans.  However, I don't see a problem in a company employee of Greenhill Capital asking the Government  for help just like many businesses did at the time.  

But Cameron was getting shares that could be worth millions. John Healey didn't get a penny over his Mps salary as far as I am aware. 

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11 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

But Cameron was getting shares that could be worth millions. John Healey didn't get a penny over his Mps salary as far as I am aware. 

John Healey is a serving MP and  wasn't employed by Greenhill Capital unlike David Cameron who was employed by Greenhill Capital and no longer a serving MP.  Do you think David Cameron shouldn't have tried to help Greenhill Capital and save British jobs just because of any agreements he had about shares?

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36 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

But Cameron was getting shares that could be worth millions. John Healey didn't get a penny over his Mps salary as far as I am aware. 

Neither Cameron or Healey were doing anything wrong, but had a cabinet minster showed any favourtism, that would have been wrong.

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29 minutes ago, West 77 said:

John Healey is a serving MP and  wasn't employed by Greenhill Capital unlike David Cameron who was employed by Greenhill Capital and no longer a serving MP.  Do you think David Cameron shouldn't have tried to help Greenhill Capital and save British jobs just because of any agreements he had about shares?

No I don't. He didn't do it to save British jobs - that's a happy accident. He did it, as all lobbyists do, to line their own pockets. It needs stamping out.

10 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Neither Cameron or Healey were doing anything wrong, but had a cabinet minster showed any favourtism, that would have been wrong.

Like getting meetings with the treasury at the behest of the chancellor. Good luck with that if you aren't chums with a cabinet minister.

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Can’t beat Cold War Steve. He’s got this mob of Tories sussed.

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21 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Neither Cameron or Healey were doing anything wrong, but had a cabinet minster showed any favourtism, that would have been wrong.

Exactly correct. There also is the possibility that if David Cameron hadn't been employed by Greenhill Capital then the Government may have taken a different decision regarding a covid-19 loan.  At the end of the day David Cameron's influence didn't have a positive outcome for Greenhill Capital or save the British jobs lost.

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