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1 minute ago, sibon said:

It’s not an opinion. It is a fact. 
 

The way that this government have chucked money to their friends is both astounding and a matter of public record.

 

If you want to defend them giving away my money to their mates, then feel free.

 

Please don’t insult my intelligence by pretending that it isn’t happening though.

OK, have it your way  - I'll just add you to my personal 'ignore list' from now on. IIRC, you used to be a bit of a pain in the rear for me, prior to your 'holiday'.

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Just now, RollingJ said:

OK, have it your way  - I'll just add you to my personal 'ignore list' from now on. IIRC, you used to be a bit of a pain in the rear for me, prior to your 'holiday'.

I’d prefer it if you’d explain why you think it’s ok for the Tories to be so casual with public money.

 

But if the debate isn’t for you ...

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9 hours ago, West 77 said:

Dodgy Dave hasn't broken any rules. It's a different issue whether the rules need changing.  Ex Prime Ministers all get a windfall someway or other from holding  the highest office in the land.  Dodgy Dave was still a youngest man when he left office and still has years left until his official retirement date. Would you prefer to see ex Prime Ministers such as Dodgy Dave working in B&Q and giving advise on sheds?  Personally I don't begrudge Dodgy Dave cashing in on being Prime Minister because he deserves to be well rewarded for giving the UK people the right to choose whether they wanted to remain or leave the EU.  

 

Three Cheers For Dodgy Dave  !!!   and bring on the Knighthood

 If he hadn’t been born with a silver spoon in his gob that’s probably what he’d be doing,  not that there’s anything wrong with working at B&Q.  

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On 12/04/2021 at 18:06, Mister Gee said:

 If he hadn’t been born with a silver spoon in his gob that’s probably what he’d be doing,  not that there’s anything wrong with working at B&Q.  

Exactly correct David Cameron had a good start in life meaning he had the best possible education money could buy.  However, not every person born with a silver spoon in their mouth make the best of their good start and opportunities  in life and end up becoming a Tory Prime Minister.  Likewise not every person born without a spoon in their mouth has a chip on their shoulder.

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1 hour ago, West 77 said:

Exactly correct David Cameron had a good start in life meaning he had the best possible education money could buy.  However, not every person born with a silver spoon in their mouth make the best of their good start and opportunities  in life and end up becoming a Tory Prime Minister.  Likewise not every person born without a spoon in their mouth has a chip on their shoulder.

Given the revelations I'd hardly say David Cameron is a good example of someone making the best of their privileged start in life. Someone pointing that out doesn't infer that they have a chip on their shoulder.

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Labour involved too?
 

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John Healey, shadow defence secretary, urged ministers in May 2020 to give Greensill the ability to offer loans of up to £200m under a Covid-19 loan scheme for cash-strapped large companies.

 

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42 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Given the revelations I'd hardly say David Cameron is a good example of someone making the best of their privileged start in life. Someone pointing that out doesn't infer that they have a chip on their shoulder.

I disagree with you Mister Gee, the revelations  show that David Cameron was a loyal employee of Lex Greenhill and sought to do his best to help his employer at an unprecedented time when business was suffering worldwide as a consequence of an once in one hundred year global pandemic. Loyalty  to ones employer is a good example to set regardless of whether you had a privileged  start in life or not.  I'm not suggesting David Cameron is a saint and the likelihood is he believed his job was a cushy lucrative position where he  wouldn't get his hands dirty.  However, due to the nature of politics and the  point scoring mentality  it looks like David Cameron has got his fingers burnt despite breaking no rules.

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1 hour ago, alchresearch said:

Labour involved too?
 

 

I don't think he was making money out of it, he was trying to protect jobs in his constituency.

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You can have as many rules and regulations as you like but there are always those who ignore or try to circumvent them.

What matters is personal ethics and many in public life demonstrate that they have little regard for such niceties when it comes to their personal behaviour.

Johnson and Cameron are the latest examples,but to balance the books,we have the likes of Mandelson,DVid Steel,Paddy Ashdown,Cyril Smith,Jeremy Thorpe and the list goes on.

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1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

I don't think he was making money out of it, he was trying to protect jobs in his constituency.

A good point well made.  Over 400 British jobs have been lost as a consequence of the collapse of Greenhill Capital.  If the business wasn't long term viable then it's correct the Government didn't give them any covid-19 related loans.  However, I don't see a problem in a company employee of Greenhill Capital asking the Government  for help just like many businesses did at the time.  

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44 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Johnson and Cameron are the latest examples,but to balance the books,we have the likes of Mandelson,DVid Steel,Paddy Ashdown,Cyril Smith,Jeremy Thorpe and the list goes on.

Not many of those have broken the law. Its not against the law to be greedy, it helps countries to prosper.

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