The Conservative Party - Part Two.

[Padders 2,850]

2 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Bullingdon is all about elitism, self indulgence, privilege and entitlement. Anyone who wants to belong to such an organisation has to be full of themselves to say the least. 

 

It's the same in Sheffield Lane Top  WMC.

[RollingJ 2,002]

2 minutes ago, Padders said:

It's the same in Sheffield Lane Top  WMC.

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[Anna B 1,401]

10 minutes ago, Padders said:

It's the same in Sheffield Lane Top  WMC.

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[Mr Bloke 1,445]

18 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Bullingdon is all about elitism, self indulgence, privilege and entitlement. Anyone who wants to belong to such an organisation has to be full of themselves to say the least. But then Oxbridge is all about that and of course rubbing shoulders with people who have, or will have power and influence to help you up the greasy pole.

 

Hmmm...

I've always found that the best way to climb a greasy pole is to work hard, save your pennies...

... and buy the biggest tub of Swarfega you can afford!

[Anna B 1,401]

13 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said:

Hmmm...

I've always found that the best way to climb a greasy pole is to work hard, save your pennies...

... and buy the biggest tub of Swarfega you can afford!

Only 7% of the population go to Private schools, but they dominate most of the top jobs. If it was an equally fair system they should only take 7% of the top jobs. 

So 93% of the population are at a disadvantage from day 1 by not being able to afford Private schools. 

And it's not only about education, but building up the right contacts with the people, the influential and powerful, who can help you get where you want to be.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jun/25/britains-top-jobs-still-in-hands-of-private-school-elite-study-finds

Edited February 15, 2022 by Anna B

[Padders 2,850]

11 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said:

Hmmm...

I've always found that the best way to climb a greasy pole is to work hard, save your pennies...

... and buy the biggest tub of Swarfega you can afford!

And if you can't afford it, a handy little tip.

 

A handful of washing up liquid + 2 spoonfulls of sugar.

[Mr Bloke 1,445]

27 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Only 7% of the population go to Private schools, but they dominate most of the top jobs. If it was an equally fair system they should only take 7% of the top jobs. 

So 93% of the population are at a disadvantage from day 1 by not being able to afford Private schools. 

And it's not only about education, but building up the right contacts with the people, the influential and powerful, who can help you get where you want to be.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jun/25/britains-top-jobs-still-in-hands-of-private-school-elite-study-finds

Hmmm...

So how do you go about changing that?

Going to 'the best schools' does not mean that you are the most intelligent or 'best' person.

Just like going to the local college doesn't mean you're a bit deficient under the old schoolcap...
... it just means that you might have to try a bit harder to get what you want.

It's all too common these days to blame others for your own failings...
... if you want something bad enough, then find a way of getting it!

If you've not achieved what you think you deserve to have, then you've obviously not worked hard enough to make it happen.

It might make life 'a bit easier', but you don't automatically become 'successful' just because you are 'given' opportunities or have the 'right contacts'.

So while everyone else is sat back 'feeling sorry for themselves', that's the best time to get out there and make the opportunities for yourself...

[Anna B 1,401]

Just now, West 77 said:

They do normally have to be rather intelligent and do really well in their exams to get into the Oxbridge universities.  

Private schools make a point of ensuring their students know how to apply to Oxbridge, how to answer the questions and do well at the interview - it's different to other universities. It's all very specialised and needs a specific approach which the private schools will be sure to teach.

But if you notice other professions such as successful actors are well represented, well outside the normal range, and not necessarily to do with brains, more about confidence. And I suspect, a lot to do with knowing the right people to enable getting a foot in the door. With lots of talented competition that's the hardest bit.

[crookesey 632]

20 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Private schools make a point of ensuring their students know how to apply to Oxbridge, how to answer the questions and do well at the interview - it's different to other universities. It's all very specialised and needs a specific approach which the private schools will be sure to teach.

But if you notice other professions such as successful actors are well represented, well outside the normal range, and not necessarily to do with brains, more about confidence. And I suspect, a lot to do with knowing the right people to enable getting a foot in the door. With lots of talented competition that's the hardest bit.

I’ve known quite a few folk who have a private school education background, and to be honest haven’t noticed any great difference in the finished product between them and the rest of us. Where they do have the advantage is on the snob value market, they can walk through doors that the likes of me had to batter myself through, I don’t mind because I got there, but there are many state educated folk a lot cleverer than me that didn’t.

[hackey lad 3,955]

1 hour ago, Padders said:

It's the same in Sheffield Lane Top  WMC.

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44 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said:

Hmmm...

So how do you go about changing that?

Going to 'the best schools' does not mean that you are the most intelligent or 'best' person.

Just like going to the local college doesn't mean you're a bit deficient under the old schoolcap...
... it just means that you might have to try a bit harder to get what you want.

It's all too common these days to blame others for your own failings...
... if you want something bad enough, then find a way of getting it!

If you've not achieved what you think you deserve to have, then you've obviously not worked hard enough to make it happen.

It might make life 'a bit easier', but you don't automatically become 'successful' just because you are 'given' opportunities or have the 'right contacts'.

So while everyone else is sat back 'feeling sorry for themselves', that's the best time to get out there and make the opportunities for yourself...

[Anna B 1,401]

1 hour ago, crookesey said:

I’ve known quite a few folk who have a private school education background, and to be honest haven’t noticed any great difference in the finished product between them and the rest of us. Where they do have the advantage is on the snob value market, they can walk through doors that the likes of me had to batter myself through, I don’t mind because I got there, but there are many state educated folk a lot cleverer than me that didn’t.

Absolutely.

We might be a democracy, but we are hardly egalitarian. The old class war is still very evident.

We are the snobbiest nation on earth. 

 

[Mister M 1,609]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Absolutely.

We might be a democracy, but we are hardly egalitarian. The old class war is still very evident.

We are the snobbiest nation on earth. 

 

That might explain why so many people overlooked Johnson's complete unsuitability for the role as PM, because of the deference of many in this country.

Speaking of which, I see John Bercow has made a pronouncement in this area:

The Great Debate: Boris Johnson a 'narcissist' and worst PM 'by a country mile', says Bercow | UK News | Sky News