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1 hour ago, West 77 said:

I acknowledge the media have never been friendly towards Jeremy Corbyn.   Things may have been different if Jeremy Corbyn hadn't been a terrorist sympathiser and gone for a drink with the IRA terrorist Gerry Adams or invited him to the House of Commons shortly after the Brighton bombing.  Someone running for the position of British prime minister who refuses to condemn the actions of the IRA deserve to be slaughtered by the media in my opinion. 

Corbyn was a peacemaker. You can't make peace without dialogue. 

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One of Johnson's puppets, Zahawi, claims that the bungling idiot is not in danger of losing his job: "...he's human and we make mistakes".

 

Johnson is certainly good at that!

 

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1 hour ago, West 77 said:

I acknowledge the media have never been friendly towards Jeremy Corbyn.   Things may have been different if Jeremy Corbyn hadn't been a terrorist sympathiser and gone for a drink with the IRA terrorist Gerry Adams or invited him to the House of Commons shortly after the Brighton bombing.  Someone running for the position of British prime minister who refuses to condemn the actions of the IRA deserve to be slaughtered by the media in my opinion. 

Like when Thatcher negotiated with terrorists even though her government "dont negotiate with terrorists"?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16366413

 

Thatcher "secretly" pardoning an IRA terrorist just after the Brighton bomb

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11062418/Thatcher-granted-secret-pardon-to-IRA-terrorist.html

 

Or the Queen shaking hands with Mcguiness

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/never-thought-id-see-day-reflecting-queens-historic-meeting-ex-flna848300

 

 

Edited by melthebell

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Corbyn was a peacemaker. You can't make peace without dialogue. 

He was no Mo Mowlam though.

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35 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

He was no Mo Mowlam though.

I liked Mo Mowlam very much, but that's going back a bit.  IMO  the media have got a lot more partisan and biased since, and the electorate need to realise how much they are being manipulated by the big boys.

Meanwhile Corbyn won the Ghandi Peace Prize for his negotiating skills. Just sayin.' 

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1 hour ago, melthebell said:

Like when Thatcher negotiated with terrorists even though her government "dont negotiate with terrorists"?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16366413

 

Thatcher "secretly" pardoning an IRA terrorist just after the Brighton bomb

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11062418/Thatcher-granted-secret-pardon-to-IRA-terrorist.html

 

Or the Queen shaking hands with Mcguiness

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/never-thought-id-see-day-reflecting-queens-historic-meeting-ex-flna848300

 

 

You're really scraping the barrel to compare the actions of Lady Thatcher  with Corbyn.

 

Also the Queen would have shaken hands with whoever the deputy first minster was and it was after the Good Friday Agreement.  At least the Queen wore gloves.

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10 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Meanwhile Corbyn won the Ghandi Peace Prize for his negotiating skills. Just sayin.' 

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A few months ago, Corbyn’s supporters began to rebut questions about his commitment to peace by asserting that he was a winner of the Gandhi Peace Prize. The prize is bestowed annually by the Indian government for 'contributions towards social, economic and political transformation through non-violence and other Gandhian methods'. Past winners include Nelson Mandela, Václav Havel, and Desmond Tutu.
 

A cursory Google yields that it was in fact never awarded to Corbyn. But in 2013 he was given the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award. The prize was bestowed by the Gandhi Foundation at a ceremony in Portcullis House—his place of work. The foundation is run from a community centre in Bromley and brands itself as 'the UK’s leading Gandhi organisation'.

Once Jeremy’s award had, in the minds of his base, morphed into a prestigious one of a similar name, it was only a small leap to Nobel laureateship and the most prestigious peace award in the world.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jeremy-corbyn-s-road-to-sainthood

Meanwhile, here's all the real winners:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_Peace_Prize

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Well that seems to have killed off Anna's contributions to the discussion...............

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1 hour ago, alchresearch said:

Well that seems to have killed off Anna's contributions to the discussion...............

Not at all. I stand by the fact that Corbyn was a peacemaker and a thoughtful pragmatic man with ideas and integrity that would have helped the majority of people in this land. But he was much maligned as that represented a major threat to the power mad elite who have never had it so good.

 

That is evidenced by the fact that the rich have doubled their money during the pandemic, whilst the poorest have become ever poorer and will be joined in the downward trend by more and more hardworking citizens in the future.

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5 hours ago, Anna B said:

Not at all. I stand by the fact that Corbyn was a peacemaker and a thoughtful pragmatic man with ideas and integrity that would have helped the majority of people in this land. But he was much maligned as that represented a major threat to the power mad elite who have never had it so good.

 

That is evidenced by the fact that the rich have doubled their money during the pandemic, whilst the poorest have become ever poorer and will be joined in the downward trend by more and more hardworking citizens in the future.

I won't question "Corbyn was  . . . .  a thoughtful pragmatic man with ideas and integrity that would have helped the majority of people in this land" - it's too funny for that, but could you please link to the 'evidence' you have for the 'fact' that the rich have doubled their money?

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