The Conservative Party - Part Two.

[hackey lad 3,976]

3 minutes ago, Litotes said:

Yes, but some people want proof - now they have proof.. of incompetence, more law breaking and arrogance... 10, 9,8,7,6,...

Obviously 10 , 9 . 8  they dont stay leaders forever 

[RJRB 688]

7 minutes ago, West 77 said:

 

He got Brexit done and saved us from humiliation which it would have been if our country hadn't left the EU after our own people made the democratic choice to do so.

A withdrawal agreement was rushed through which seems to have satisfied a few and is now being touted as Johnson’s finest hour.Making it work is a different matter as Johnson  tries to renegotiate the finer details which were pushed to one side at the appropriate time.

Meanwhile the country is in the worst state for years.Inflation,cost of living,impending fuel rise costs.The real issues are piling up and more people are pushed  into poverty as the wealthy get wealthier.

[melthebell 863]

More Tory backbenchers are threatening to send letters in to the 1922 committee if Boris doesnt retract his comments about Starmer and Saville LOL

 

its going to be a very interesting time

 

*gets the beer and popcorn*

[ECCOnoob 1,043]

2 hours ago, West 77 said:

I don't agree with the comments Boris made regarding Starmer and Savile but the truth is politics is a dirty game.  Dirty tactics have been used against Boris via the media and the opposition parties for months now and it's understandable why Boris decided to give Starmer some of his own medicine.  

I've said very similar on the other thread. Ultimately, it is all just mudslinging and political games.  If Starmer can get on his high horse shouting from his podium and trying to put blame on Boris personally for all failures within No 10 and the Cabinet Office regarding "partygate" then why shouldn't Boris be able to throw a little bit of mud back and blame Starmer personally for failures during his time at the CPS.

 

Starmer apologised for such failures and moved on. However as soon as Boris tries to do the same, Starmer take some moral high ground and demands his  head on a plate.  

 

Work both ways.    The victims of Savile may well be upset by the remarks but equally the the victims of Covid have been blatantly exploited  by Starmer as political point scoring multiple times.

 

This is operational Parliament not some political rally. Is a constant stream of smearing, speculation and finger pointing.  

 

Holding the government to account is one thing but this goes well well beyond and demeans it down to a level of petulant childish nitpicking with lots of embarrassing he said she said. It's about time the house leaders got all MPs heads smashed together to start actually cooperating and getting some things done.  

 

Official report has been produced. A police investigation is ongoing. That's it for the moment. Nothing more to say. Nothing more to do. Until such results are produced and any penalties our forthcoming  - why are they still talking about it. Time to move on.  There is other stuff going on.

Edited February 3, 2022 by ECCOnoob

[steved32 55]

2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

"...from his podium and trying to put blame on Boris personally for all failures within No 10 and the Cabinet Office regarding "partygate" then why shouldn't Boris be able to throw a little bit of mud back and blame Starmer personally for failures during his time at the CPS.

Sue Gray: "...a failure of leadership.".  The buck stops with The Chief Suspect.  That's why he'll be gone soon.

[Mister Gee 823]

2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

I've said very similar on the other thread. Ultimately, it is all just mudslinging and political games.  If Starmer can get on his high horse shouting from his podium and trying to put blame on Boris personally for all failures within No 10 and the Cabinet Office regarding "partygate" then why shouldn't Boris be able to throw a little bit of mud back and blame Starmer personally for failures during his time at the CPS.

 

Starmer apologised for such failures and moved on. However as soon as Boris tries to do the same, Starmer take some moral high ground and demands his  head on a plate.  

 

Work both ways.    The victims of Savile may well be upset by the remarks but equally the the victims of Covid have been blatantly exploited  by Starmer as political point scoring multiple times.

 

This is operational Parliament not some political rally. Is a constant stream of smearing, speculation and finger pointing.  

 

Holding the government to account is one thing but this goes well well beyond and demeans it down to a level of petulant childish nitpicking with lots of embarrassing he said she said. It's about time the house leaders got all MPs heads smashed together to start actually cooperating and getting some things done.  

 

Official report has been produced. A police investigation is ongoing. That's it for the moment. Nothing more to say. Nothing more to do. Until such results are produced and any penalties our forthcoming  - why are they still talking about it. Time to move on.  There is other stuff going on.

His former policy chief disagrees.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60250036

[altus 540]

7 hours ago, West 77 said:

Boris got his 80 seat majority because normal honest people in our country were sick and tired of the Brexit shenanigans by the rogue parliament and just wanted to get Brexit done.  Our country just like the rest of the World has been in a pandemic for 2 years and there is a global fuel crisis which are the reasons for a big increase in the cost of living for most people.

Johnson got his majority because he agreed to a NI deal that he new wouldn't work just to be able to claim he'd got brexit done. The fact that NI agriculture minister Edwin Poots has ordered a halt to brexit checks on food and farm products and NI first minister is threatening to resign over brexit demonstrates Johnson simply hasn't got brexit done.

 

The only rogue thing in parliament at that time was the Tory governments who were twice slapped down by the supreme court for trying to bypass the sovereignty of parliament.

[butlers 261]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/03/northern-ireland-first-minister-poised-to-quit-over-brexit-reports-say?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

Now confirmed by personal statement

Edited February 3, 2022 by butlers

[altus 540]

2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Holding the government to account is one thing but this goes well well beyond and demeans it down to a level of petulant childish nitpicking with lots of embarrassing he said she said. It's about time the house leaders got all MPs heads smashed together to start actually cooperating and getting some things done. 

If the government wants the other parties to cooperate it's going to have to compromise and propose things the other parties can agree to. But they are not going to do that. Flushed with the success of their manipulating the country into an extreme brexit, the ERG contingent who currently have the party by the balls won't even compromise with other's within their own party let alone with other parties.

[butlers 261]

Makes you long for the sanity of the tail end of the Major " sleaze" government 

 

What a epic shower of  ill     equiped, inept chancers are attempting to govern the country

[butlers 261]

Boris 'back to old self' as he shags secretary and accepts bribe

https://flip.it/ONCIrY

[altus 540]

Just now, West 77 said:

yawn

If you don't like me pointing it out, don't keep posting the same falsehood.