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32 minutes ago, whiteowl said:

A couple of papers are running the story that the Johnsons broke the lockdown rules last Christmas. One rule for us and one rule for them?

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/carrie-johnson-broke-lockdown-friend-25235587

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10097383/Row-allegations-Boris-Carrie-Johnson-broke-Covid-lockdown-rules-Christmas.html

Should someone with a job as important as the Prime Minister follow the same rules as Joe Public?

Everything the PM does, could be seen as work?

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33 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Should someone with a job as important as the Prime Minister follow the same rules as Joe Public?

Everything the PM does, could be seen as work?

Politicians, the PM in particular, are supposed to set good examples. You can't expect people to follow government instructions if those in power don't.

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Nothing new from them. Remember his dad going to Greece?

 

Stanley Johnson says Greece visit is essential to 'Covid-proof' villa
Boris Johnson has refused to criticise his father over trip to holiday home during lockdown
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/04/stanley-johnson-says-greece-visit-is-essential-to-covid-proof-villa

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1 hour ago, altus said:

Politicians, the PM in particular, are supposed to set good examples. You can't expect people to follow government instructions if those in power don't.

The government are talking about making border force officers immune from prosecution if a boat they ram sinks and people drown. Who Boris had round for turkey sandwiches and mince pies is small beer.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/13/uk-border-force-could-be-given-immunity-over-refugee-deaths

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1 hour ago, altus said:

Politicians, the PM in particular, are supposed to set good examples. You can't expect people to follow government instructions if those in power don't.

At least they are no longer subject to the working time directive where they can only work a maximum of 48 hours.

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10 hours ago, El Cid said:

At least they are no longer subject to the working time directive where they can only work a maximum of 48 hours.

Johnson has quite a way to go to reach that benchmark.

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Hats off to whoever writes Boris Johnsons speeches; you have to admit they're good. In a speech about Green issues he invoked Gordon Gekko, adapting his catchphrase saying "Green is good!"

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On 18/10/2021 at 11:11, whiteowl said:

A couple of papers are running the story that the Johnsons broke the lockdown rules last Christmas. One rule for us and one rule for them?

No, there is only one rule, or set of rules and they apply to everyone. The rules are the same for everyone and you make your own choice about following them. Plenty of people didn't and some of those people might be Prime Ministers. This shouldn't be a surprise if a PM bends rules or if a neighbour does, or if you yourself do.  Did you? I did.

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14 hours ago, Tony said:

No, there is only one rule, or set of rules and they apply to everyone. The rules are the same for everyone and you make your own choice about following them. Plenty of people didn't and some of those people might be Prime Ministers. This shouldn't be a surprise if a PM bends rules or if a neighbour does, or if you yourself do.  Did you? I did.

I followed them quite stringently until the Government started breaking them themselves, after that I was a bit more selective over which rules I followed.

 

*edit*

To be fair, it wasn't just the Government, it was a lot of high profile figures including politicians on all sides. However, it was the government that set the rules so when they started not following them, that's when I became more selective.

Edited by whiteowl
clarification

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A senior Tory MP has called for MPs to be allowed to carry guns so they can protect themselves

https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/senior-tory-mp-calls-for-all-mps-to-get-their-own-gun-for-protection/

Wonder which MP this is?

My initial thoughts were Mark "I've got a big penis" Francois; but then reports emphasised that it is a senior Tory MP. So that rules little Mark out.

I reckon it's Peter Bone. 

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52 minutes ago, Mister M said:

A senior Tory MP has called for MPs to be allowed to carry guns so they can protect themselves

https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/senior-tory-mp-calls-for-all-mps-to-get-their-own-gun-for-protection/

Wonder which MP this is?

My initial thoughts were Mark "I've got a big penis" Francois; but then reports emphasised that it is a senior Tory MP. So that rules little Mark out.

I reckon it's Peter Bone. 

Fake News

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12 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Fake News

Well it was reported in the Spectator, who know even more than you do about all things relating to the PCP.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-problem-with-david-s-law-

Unless of course you're accusing the Spectator of spreading fake news? Now I know that Boris used to edit the Spectator, and well, he's not that high up on the trustworthy metre....

Ooh if you didn't already know about the the PCP's links to the Spectator, here it is in Tatler https://www.tatler.com/article/spectator-magazine-social-web-links-to-tory-cabinet

I'm sure you've already read it Westy, with you being well connected and all that ;)

Edited by Mister M

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