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9 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Bet she's devastated to hear that she's not got your attention Hacks.

Do you think she is a good interviewer ?

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11 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Do you think she is a good interviewer ?

I've no view on her.

The joint report from both the Health and Social Care and Science and Technology Select Committees is damning in its criticisms.

A third rate minister in the shape of Stephen Barclay refused this morning to apologise 7 times when questioned about the many thousands of unnecessary and preventable deaths from Covid 19. The Government response, the report said:

Was the worst public health failures in UK history.

Even Johnson apologised on TV when the official death rate hit 100,000.

What makes Barclay think he's above apologising to those families whose loved ones were amongst the many thousands who lost their lives unnecessarily?

 

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1 hour ago, Mister M said:

I've no view on her.

The joint report from both the Health and Social Care and Science and Technology Select Committees is damning in its criticisms.

A third rate minister in the shape of Stephen Barclay refused this morning to apologise 7 times when questioned about the many thousands of unnecessary and preventable deaths from Covid 19. The Government response, the report said:

Was the worst public health failures in UK history.

Even Johnson apologised on TV when the official death rate hit 100,000.

What makes Barclay think he's above apologising to those families whose loved ones were amongst the many thousands who lost their lives unnecessarily?

 

Standards have changed over the years - although listening to the Tories you'd have thought they were carrying on standards going back to at least Churchill (or Disraeli if you're Rees-Mogg).

 

Can anybody think that Profumo would have had to resign in this day and age?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Profumo

 

Or Cecil Parkinson?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Parkinson

 

 

Edited by Longcol

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1 hour ago, Longcol said:

Standards have changed over the years - although listening to the Tories you'd have thought they were carrying on standards going back to at least Churchill (or Disraeli if you're Rees-Mogg).

 

Can anybody think that Profumo would have had to resign in this day and age?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Profumo

 

Or Cecil Parkinson?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Parkinson

 

 

And yet no-one on a ministerial level has resigned because of the handling of the pandemic.

I mean you could say that Cummings was sacked - he certainly was. But that was only because he fell out with Princess Numnuts, or what ever juvenile name he gave Johnson's partner. 

Calling Carrie Symonds silly names is a sackable offence! Being a useless incompetent like Pritti Patel is okay, presumably because if it weren't then Johnson himself would have to go.

I doubt whether any future Conservative opposition would ever again, with a straight face, call for a member of the Government to resign.

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One thing that hasn't changed and never will, is the Conservatives arrogance, sense of entitlement, and firm belief that they, and only they, are born to rule over us. And heaven help anyone who says otherwise, they don't send their progeny to Eton to have the plebs and the little people telling them what to do....

 

That's what happens when you grudgingly allow democracy into a system created by, and for, the Aristocracy. 

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14 hours ago, Anna B said:

One thing that hasn't changed and never will, is the Conservatives arrogance, sense of entitlement, and firm belief that they, and only they, are born to rule over us. And heaven help anyone who says otherwise, they don't send their progeny to Eton to have the plebs and the little people telling them what to do....

 

That's what happens when you grudgingly allow democracy into a system created by, and for, the Aristocracy. 

Surely it's better to have the country run by people who have benefited from elite schooling and are highly educated, rather than people like Rayner who are profoundly ignorant?

 

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1 hour ago, Caswall said:

Surely it's better to have the country run by people who have benefited from elite schooling and are highly educated, rather than people like Rayner who are profoundly ignorant?

 

Having elite schooling and being highly educated doesn't mean that the people are any more intelligent than anyone else.

With regards to the running of the country, just look at the mess we're in now, much of it self inflicted. 

 

 

 

 

15 hours ago, Anna B said:

One thing that hasn't changed and never will, is the Conservatives arrogance, sense of entitlement, and firm belief that they, and only they, are born to rule over us. And heaven help anyone who says otherwise, they don't send their progeny to Eton to have the plebs and the little people telling them what to do....

 

That's what happens when you grudgingly allow democracy into a system created by, and for, the Aristocracy. 

To be honest Anna, I've got less of a problem with people like Johnson, Rees Mogg and the like. They have got that sense of entitlement and a belief that theirs is a divine right to rule. But none of that would mean anything if people lower down the pecking order didn't allow them to get away with it.

 

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1 hour ago, Caswall said:

Surely it's better to have the country run by people who have benefited from elite schooling and are highly educated, rather than people like Rayner who are profoundly ignorant?

 

Its interesting that you think the education of MPs is important. Most top ranking MPs of both sides are well educated.

So perhaps something else is important?

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1 hour ago, Caswall said:

Surely it's better to have the country run by people who have benefited from elite schooling and are highly educated, rather than people like Rayner who are profoundly ignorant?

 

Jay Rayner is very well educated.

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2 hours ago, Caswall said:

Surely it's better to have the country run by people who have benefited from elite schooling and are highly educated, rather than people like Rayner who are profoundly ignorant?

 

Some of the cleverest people i know seem to be the ones with the least common sense.

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On 28/09/2021 at 19:25, Caswall said:

Come now, we can't have uncultured, uneducated lower class people representing our nation. 

 

Do other nations trawl their rough inner city estates for the most course of inhabitants to represent their government?   Of course they don't, but it would seem that many Labour voters think it's a grand idea.  People like Rayner are suited to menial tasks; falsely elevating somebody of her ilk (who would be better suited to using a mop) to such a senior position is farcical, but Labour has a history of doing this (Prescott and Abbott to name a couple). 

Ironic thing is that Caswell doesn't come across as particularly bright - bit of an attention seeker really.

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I don't know about Rayner, but both John Prescott and Diane Abbott are University graduates, Abbott from Cambridge no less....

 

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