The Conservative Party - Part Two.

[Carbuncle 0]

2 minutes ago, melthebell said:

exactly, it doesnt count for normal everyday "scum" just Bullingdon ********

What amazes me is the way that Westy can tell an 'illegal gypsy' upon casual inspection at a distance of 50 yards and 'economic migrants' can be diagnosed en masse at distances of up to 500 miles but identifying sleaze amongst Tory MPs proves impossible for him even at bottom kissing distance.

[melthebell 863]

2 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

What amazes me is the way that Westy can tell an 'illegal gypsy' upon casual inspection at a distance of 50 yards and 'economic migrants' can be diagnosed en masse at distances of up to 500 miles but identifying sleaze amongst Tory MPs proves impossible for him even at bottom kissing distance.

its purely down to blind "patriotism", read that as full on nationalism, whereas real patriots can know and be against things when their government / country has done wrong.

[Mister M 1,625]

16 minutes ago, melthebell said:

its purely down to blind "patriotism", read that as full on nationalism, whereas real patriots can know and be against things when their government / country has done wrong.

As well as a side order of Tory bigwig boot licking.

Edited November 4, 2021 by Mister M

[hackey lad 3,970]

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

As well as a side order of Tory bigwig boot licking.

I would not call Patterson  a Tory bigwig .

[Mister M 1,625]

3 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

I would not call Patterson  a Tory bigwig .

He was a former minister, and as a backbench MP wielded power

[hackey lad 3,970]

1 minute ago, Mister M said:

He was a former minister, and as a backbench MP wielded power

Yes but not really a "big hitter "

[Guest sibon]

52 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Yes but not really a "big hitter "

He's unemployed.

 

Thankfully. We need fewer of his sort in parliament 

[hackey lad 3,970]

9 minutes ago, sibon said:

He's unemployed.

 

Thankfully. We need fewer of his sort in parliament 

Agreed 

[melthebell 863]

11 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Yes but not really a "big hitter "

I've never been hit by him so I don't know

[RJRB 688]

He was judged and sanctioned by the accepted cross party procedure and had been applied in previous cases.

There was no move to modify this procedure by anyone until Owen Patterson had already transgressed.

Johnsons support,perhaps for personal reasons has rebounded spectacularly and once again puts his colleagues in the uncomfortable position of trying,and failing to support him.

The Conservative Party are being damaged by their leader who repeatedly shows an arrogance or lack of judgement.

[Guest sibon]

32 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The issue is it wasn't a real court that convicted Mr Patterson and he didn't have the same rights to defend himself as someone appearing in a criminal court does. 

He might yet get that chance. As may a few of his contemporaries. 

 

For now, the issue is that procedures were correctly followed. The Tory hierarchy didn't like the outcome. So they tried to change the rules. 

 

Fortunately for the reputation of parliament, the opposition were there to stop them.

 

 

[Guest sibon]

5 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The opposition won the point scoring contest but didn't turn up to stop Dame Andrea Leadsom's  amendment winning the vote in parliament.

I think they did an excellent job.

 

Now we need the rest of the corrupt mps holding to account. That will be fun.