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2 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Was he Prime Minister then ?

Nowt wrong with backing a winner 

Your keyboard is borked. 
 

Take a look at the “a” key, it seems to be typing “i” 

 

Similarly, one of your “k” keys is typing “n”. This bit seems to be an intermittent fault.

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8 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Meanwhile Johnson's plans to increase NICS to bail out the economy rich has been condemned as "morally bankrupt" by the right wing Adam Smith Institute.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/07/boris-johnson-stakes-reputation-on-12bn-fix-for-health-and-social-care

 

"The free-market Adam Smith Institute condemned the plans as “morally bankrupt”, saying the government was asking “poorer workers to bail out millionaire property owners”. It condemned the plan as “a kick in the teeth for all the young working people of this country who have already been hard done by the pandemic”.

Just been watching Newsnight, and it was reported that a 'red wall' seat MP was in tears fearing his voters will kick him out at the next election, "so that voters in richer areas can keep more of their assets"

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I keep on repeating this.... We must get the super rich like Bezos, Musk and assorted characters that lie under the radar to pay their fair share of tax. They wouldn't even miss it. A wealth tax of 0.5% on people with more than £20 million in the bank would solve our financial problems at a stroke, and they'd still have plenty left for a new yacht or two.  

 

Other countries seem able to do it, why can't we?

 

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52 minutes ago, Anna B said:

I keep on repeating this.... We must get the super rich like Bezos, Musk and assorted characters that lie under the radar to pay their fair share of tax. They wouldn't even miss it. A wealth tax of 0.5% on people with more than £20 million in the bank would solve our financial problems at a stroke, and they'd still have plenty left for a new yacht or two.  

 

Other countries seem able to do it, why can't we?

 

Do they?  Where?  How come they are still mega rich with their completely legal offshore arrangements, multi jurisdiction accounts and complex global corporate structures and subsidaries if its all so easy.....

 

Anyone can sit there squawking "tax the rich".    They do tax them.   

 

Anyone can demand "make them pay".

They do make them.  They pay what they law mandates they have to.  

 

Anyone can make pointless petitions to change the laws ......but think little of the consequences of such corporations being totally free to up sticks and go elsewhere....impacting our economy and decreasing our position on the global market.  

 

Anyone can demand a company "cuts their profits", but then what happens when such is followed by job cuts or slower growth..... how does that impact other parts of supply chain, other companies relying on supplying products to a larger one, their subsequent employees........on it goes   

 

Too many don't have the faintest idea of the complexities and potential wider fallout involved when they start spouting such simplistic gesturing.   

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11 hours ago, Anna B said:

I keep on repeating this.... We must get the super rich like Bezos, Musk and assorted characters that lie under the radar to pay their fair share of tax. They wouldn't even miss it. A wealth tax of 0.5% on people with more than £20 million in the bank would solve our financial problems at a stroke, and they'd still have plenty left for a new yacht or two.  

 

Didn't realise Bezos and Musk lived in the UK.

 

 

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8 hours ago, alchresearch said:

Didn't realise Bezos and Musk lived in the UK.

 

 

Amazon operates here. There are enormous warehouses all over the place. That must make him liable for tax here.

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31 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Amazon operates here. There are enormous warehouses all over the place. That must make him liable for tax here.

No.  It makes the business liable for tax here. You talk as if the global corporation of Amazon is his own private business as a sole trader. It is ridiculous.

 

Amazon are liable and have paid taxes here. A sum of over £18 million corporation tax alone.  Add on all other taxes and its reported to be over £492 million.

 

But of course there are plenty of those screaming it's never enough.   Plenty of those demanding that somehow they should be morally blackmailed into paying more than the law dictates, just like the rest of us don't.

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22 hours ago, sibon said:

Your keyboard is borked. 
 

Take a look at the “a” key, it seems to be typing “i” 

 

Similarly, one of your “k” keys is typing “n”. This bit seems to be an intermittent fault.

Great comment , hilarious really . It could also describe anyone in your beloved party 

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57 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Great comment 

Thanks

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On 07/09/2021 at 23:20, altus said:

Corbyn lied about that train leaving London being full when there were plenty of seats free. He might not lie as much as Johnson but he's certainly capable of it.

Oh, please...   That little bit of propaganda was scuppered long ago. The empty seats were reserved and they proved it.

If that's the best you can do to accuse Corbyn of dishonesty compared with the whoppers Boris tells then bring it on.

 

Incidently Corbyn is still has a massive following, and is very active in trying to right wrongs. At the moment he's raising support for a National Care Service, to reform a broken/corrupt system. He disagrees with the tax increases/national insurance hikes, saying it's wrong to tax the poorest in society, instead there should be a wealth tax on the super rich, those with assets over £5million.

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On 08/09/2021 at 01:50, Anna B said:

I keep on repeating this.... We must get the super rich like Bezos, Musk and assorted characters that lie under the radar to pay their fair share of tax. They wouldn't even miss it. A wealth tax of 0.5% on people with more than £20 million in the bank would solve our financial problems at a stroke, and they'd still have plenty left for a new yacht or two.  

 

Other countries seem able to do it, why can't we?

 

neither Bezos nor Musk are UK residents. How exactly could we tax their personal wealth? The US would not take kindly to any attempt to tax US residents.

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