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5 hours ago, 26b-6 said:

Boris like most MP's and Councillors is most probably incompetent. But he's the king of UK pantomime and knows how to win over xenophobes and racists so he's very electable in northern heartlands.

Probably true, but what a sorry state of affairs....

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12 hours ago, El Cid said:

That may be so, but in hindsight, we can see that they were the wrong dicisions. Or was it something else that caused the UK to have a high death rate?

Of course in hindsight some decisions were not the best decisions.  Any Prime Minister would have followed the advice of the medical and scientific experts which the Conservative  government did The UK coronavirus related death rate is roughly the same as France,  Italy and Spain according to the figures. Only Germany out of the top 5 Western European countries has handled the coronavirus better than the UK.  The experts are learning about the coronavirus everyday.  At the moment the death rates appear to be lower now than when they were before compared to the amount of new infections.

Edited by West 77

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Probably true, but what a sorry state of affairs....

Boris would never have become Prime Minister if Parliament had either accepted Theresa May's deal or accepted the default no deal option.  I don't consider it to be a sorry state of affairs and we have those MPs who blocked Brexit for so long to thank for the current Conservative government led by Boris. Boris was never my preferred candidate to become Conservative leader but he was the only person who could guarantee a Conservative majority election victory and avoid the nightmare of Corbyn becoming Prime Minister. 

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1 hour ago, West 77 said:

Boris would never have become Prime Minister if Parliament had either accepted Theresa May's deal or accepted the default no deal option..

IIRC way back in 2008 the long term goal was to have Cameron as PM from 2010-2020 and then Boris 2020 (assuming they could win another term).

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1 hour ago, West 77 said:

Boris would never have become Prime Minister if Parliament had either accepted Theresa May's deal or accepted the default no deal option.  I don't consider it to be a sorry state of affairs and we have those MPs who blocked Brexit for so long to thank for the current Conservative government led by Boris. Boris was never my preferred candidate to become Conservative leader but he was the only person who could guarantee a Conservative majority election victory and avoid the nightmare of Corbyn becoming Prime Minister. 

What is also interesting is how many of those MPs who wished to block Brexit are no longer MPs, seems like the voters decided they didnt want them anymore.

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29 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

IIRC way back in 2008 the long term goal was to have Cameron as PM from 2010-2020 and then Boris 2020 (assuming they could win another term).

I didn't know that was the long term goal. Theresa May was the obvious logical candidate to replace Cameron. Boris only managed to get the backing of the majority of Tory MPs  to be leader because at the time the party were in big trouble. 

 

 

17 minutes ago, apelike said:

What is also interesting is how many of those MPs who wished to block Brexit are no longer MPs, seems like the voters decided they didnt want them anymore.

It's  interesting given  the fact the remain camp claimed the electorate had changed their mind regarding leaving the EU. Withdrawing the whip from the Tory MPs  who voted with the opposition last September sowed the seeds for the big election victory last December.  The Labour Party made a big error in not supporting Theresa May's deal and keeping Corbyn as leader.  Barrister Boy Starmer against Theresa May in an election would have brought about a much closer result.   Starmer will prove to be just as big a loser as Corbyn if he fights a general election against Boris.

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2 hours ago, West 77 said:

 The UK coronavirus related death rate is roughly the same as France,  Italy and Spain according to the figures. Only Germany out of the top 5 Western European countries has handled the coronavirus better than the UK.  

By what metric?

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49 minutes ago, Lockjaw said:

By what metric?

Ignoring the ONS data.

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6 hours ago, West 77 said:

 The UK coronavirus related death rate is roughly the same as France,  Italy and Spain according to the figures.

Don't know where you get your figures from.

The UK is worse than every European country and even worse than the USA when comparing deaths per 100,000 of population.

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If you want to solely discuss Covid 19 please do so in the dedicated thread.

 

Thank you.

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8 hours ago, Longcol said:

Ignoring the ONS data.

Seems legit.

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10 hours ago, Lockjaw said:

By what metric?

A very special formula, written by super talented wierdos

 

You might need an optician to help you see it clearly though

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