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39 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

But you are suggesting relatives of covid victims are lying.

I'm not suggesting anyone is lying. The relatives making comments most likely don't fully understand the legal situation. 

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5 hours ago, West 77 said:

Any Prime Minister will have to judge how to make the best use of their time because obviously they get huge amounts of requests for meetings and interviews.  Boris didn't need to meet Andrew Neil because the general election result was a formality  because the British public were sick and tired of the political parties who sought to block Brexit.  The bereaved family group are a pressure group who have issued litigation proceedings against the Government which is the reason why Boris is not meeting them.

Indeed Prime Ministers do have to judge how to make the best use of their time.  Interesting then that at the height of the Pandemic, Johnson missed 5 Cobra meetings, choosing to spend some of that time playing games of tennis with potential wealthy donors to the Conservative Party. 

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1 minute ago, Mister M said:

Indeed Prime Ministers do have to judge how to make the best use of their time.  Interesting then that at the height of the Pandemic, Johnson missed 5 Cobra meetings, choosing to spend some of that time playing games of tennis with potential wealthy donors to the Conservative Party. 

He didn't need to attend all the Cobra meetings because he was fully briefed on what happened in the meetings.

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16 minutes ago, West 77 said:

I'm not suggesting anyone is lying. The relatives making comments most likely don't fully understand the legal situation. 

Their legal representative is making the comments... unsurprisingly, they are an expert in the legal situation :? 

 

Desperate waffle, keep on digging... :thumbsup:

 

 

9 minutes ago, West 77 said:

He didn't need to attend all the Cobra meetings because he was fully briefed on what happened in the meetings.

From the fridge... right? :hihi:

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7 minutes ago, West 77 said:

He didn't need to attend all the Cobra meetings because he was fully briefed on what happened in the meetings.

Really? I thought the role of the Prime Minister might have been to at least make decisions based on the information shared at these meetings. Or perhaps to show a slight interest in the State of the Nation during the height of a Pandemic. Anyway, given his propensity to **** things up, perhaps it's just as well he stayed well away.

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35 minutes ago, West 77 said:

I'm not suggesting anyone is lying. The relatives making comments most likely don't fully understand the legal situation. 

Yeah, because they have no brains at all, or legal advice.  But you've decided they don't understand the legal situation. This is what they've said.

 

The PM just said he can’t meet with us bcs we’re in “litigation against the Govt”. We’re not.

Our 5 letters make clear we want to meet to avoid that.

If he'll “certainly meet with [us] once litigation is concluded,” great: it never started.

How’s Monday for you Prime Minister?

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6 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Yeah, because they have no brains at all, or legal advice.  But you've decided they don't understand the legal situation. This is what they've said.

 

The PM just said he can’t meet with us bcs we’re in “litigation against the Govt”. We’re not.

Our 5 letters make clear we want to meet to avoid that.

If he'll “certainly meet with [us] once litigation is concluded,” great: it never started.

How’s Monday for you Prime Minister?

The PM will have been advised by his own legal representatives  that the group are in the process of litigation against the Government which is the reason a meeting is not happening.  There have been no allegations on the News tonight that the PM has lied or misled Parliament by his comments at PMQ'S today regarding this issue.  It's a non story.

40 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Really? I thought the role of the Prime Minister might have been to at least make decisions based on the information shared at these meetings. Or perhaps to show a slight interest in the State of the Nation during the height of a Pandemic. Anyway, given his propensity to **** things up, perhaps it's just as well he stayed well away.

The PM will have made decisions based on the information shared at the meetings.  

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33 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The PM will have been advised by his own legal representatives  that the group are in the process of litigation against the Government which is the reason a meeting is not happening.  There have been no allegations on the News tonight that the PM has lied or misled Parliament by his comments at PMQ'S today regarding this issue.  It's a non story.

The PM will have made decisions based on the information shared at the meetings.  

You know this how?

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3 hours ago, West 77 said:

.....The relatives making comments most likely don't fully understand the legal situation. 

That's why they are having to crowdfund to pay for a legal expert as its win win for the legal experts regardless. 

 

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

You know this how?

Because the PM does not need to attend in person thats why he has advisors, anyway his mate Cummings was probably at some..... :hihi: 

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2 hours ago, Mister M said:

Indeed Prime Ministers do have to judge how to make the best use of their time.  Interesting then that at the height of the Pandemic, Johnson missed 5 Cobra meetings, choosing to spend some of that time playing games of tennis with potential wealthy donors to the Conservative Party. 

On Feb 15th 2020 Johnson  departed on a 12-day “working holiday” with Carrie Symonds at Chevening, his grace and favour mansion, notwithstanding the fact they had spent ten days in Mustique together over New Year. But he hasnt got time to see people for meetings because he is too busy, its hard work at the top.

 

When Johnson went on holiday, there had been roughly 10 COVID cases in the UK and on the 17th Feb WHO issued guidance on mass gatherings.

On Feb 23rd Austria halted trains from Italy temporarily over a COVID-19 scare.

In the USA CDC issues Level 1 COVID warnings for Iran and Italy.

 

2 hours ago, West 77 said:

The PM will have made decisions based on the information shared at the meetings.  

That may be so, but in hindsight, we can see that they were the wrong dicisions. Or was it something else that caused the UK to have a high death rate?

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Johnson is just a figurehead with no steadfast principles or interest in detail.

He captured the popular vote with his antics but has now abdicated responsibility and delegated all issues to his inexperienced cabinet who must follow the will of Dominic Cummings .

The Conservative grandees will ditch him as soon as a capable leader is available 

 

 

 

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Boris like most MP's and Councillors is most probably incompetent. But he's the king of UK pantomime and knows how to win over xenophobes and racists so he's very electable in northern heartlands.

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