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19 minutes ago, Axe said:

The scientists were consulted before lockdown restrictions were lifted and eating establishments allowed to re-open.  Do you think eaten establishments should not have been allowed to re-open?

 

Not going to waste any more time regarding the alleged private comments because your anti Tory bias means you are not rational.

A claim that has been roundly demolished by recent testimony at the covid enquiry:

 

Top scientists were not consulted on Eat Out to Help Out scheme:

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/covid-19-inquiry-rishi-sunak-eat-out-to-help-out-chris-whitty-patrick-vallance/

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1 minute ago, Magilla said:

A claim that has been roundly demolished by recent testimony at the covid enquiry:

 

Top scientists were not consulted on Eat Out to Help Out scheme:

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/covid-19-inquiry-rishi-sunak-eat-out-to-help-out-chris-whitty-patrick-vallance/

You missed the point.  Scientists were consulted before lockdown restrictions were lifted and eating establishments were allowed to open.  The scientists knew that people would go into eating establishments and have meals therefore there was no need for the government to consult them regarding the Eat out to help scheme.

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29 minutes ago, Axe said:

No making any excuses.  I am just being rational.  Rational people regardless of age understand the government had difficult decisions to make regarding lockdowns.

 

The scientists were consulted before lockdown restrictions were lifted and eating establishments allowed to re-open.  Do you think eaten establishments should not have been allowed to re-open?

 

Not going to waste any more time regarding the alleged private comments because your anti Tory bias means you are not rational.

So they do, by the difficult decisions  are not usually   "Let the bodies pile high"   even by greedy uncaring Tory governments.

 

 I can understand you not wanting to waste any more time defending the indefensible comments,  that you can find no reasonable excuse for.

You are having a pretty tough time recently trying to defend a lying and corrupt mob like the. corrupt.

Did you watch Channel 4 last night regarding climate change and how big builders like Persimmon are paying Gove miilions of pounds,   not to make life hard for them over house building rules ?

 

1 minute ago, Axe said:

You missed the point.  Scientists were consulted before lockdown restrictions were lifted and eating establishments were allowed to open.  The scientists knew that people would go into eating establishments and have meals therefore there was no need for the government to consult them regarding the Eat out to help scheme.

And the scientists said that they knew the cases would rise because of this but the government didn't care.

Edited by Organgrinder

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11 minutes ago, Axe said:

You missed the point.  Scientists were consulted before lockdown restrictions were lifted and eating establishments were allowed to open. 

Nope, I get the point entirely... you were wrong!

 

Your claim is not what happened. :?

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33 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Nope, I get the point entirely... you were wrong!

 

Your claim is not what happened. :?

Axe is starting to stretch the truth as much as the lying government he shamefacedly defends.

 

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40 minutes ago, Axe said:

You missed the point.  Scientists were consulted before lockdown restrictions were lifted and eating establishments were allowed to open.  The scientists knew that people would go into eating establishments and have meals therefore there was no need for the government to consult them regarding the Eat out to help scheme.

No the point is that the Government's Medical and Scientific Officers should've been consulted on the appropriateness of the EOTHO scheme before they were allowed to open.

As Sir Patrick Vallance said at the Inquiry, if his opinion had been sought then he would've advised against it. 

There's no point in having Medical and Scientific Officers if you're not going to bother even consulting with them on government policies.

But then you knew that anyway.

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10 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Axe is starting to stretch the truth as much as the lying government he shamefacedly defends.

 

Perhaps he thinks the rest of us are as gullible as he is? 

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14 minutes ago, Mister M said:

There's no point in having Medical and Scientific Officers if you're not going to bother even consulting with them on government policies.

But then you knew that anyway.

As per testimony yesterday... scientists soon realised it was a mistake for Boris to claim the government was following the science, they weren't.

 

It made them scapegoats for political decisions on which they were never consulted.

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6 hours ago, Organgrinder said:

So they do, by the difficult decisions  are not usually   "Let the bodies pile high"   even by greedy uncaring Tory governments.

 

 I can understand you not wanting to waste any more time defending the indefensible comments,  that you can find no reasonable excuse for.

You are having a pretty tough time recently trying to defend a lying and corrupt mob like the. corrupt.

Did you watch Channel 4 last night regarding climate change and how big builders like Persimmon are paying Gove miilions of pounds,   not to make life hard for them over house building rules ?

 

And the scientists said that they knew the cases would rise because of this but the government didn't care.

 

6 hours ago, Mister M said:

No the point is that the Government's Medical and Scientific Officers should've been consulted on the appropriateness of the EOTHO scheme before they were allowed to open.

As Sir Patrick Vallance said at the Inquiry, if his opinion had been sought then he would've advised against it. 

There's no point in having Medical and Scientific Officers if you're not going to bother even consulting with them on government policies.

But then you knew that anyway.

Typical nonsense contributions.  Enough said.

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On 21/11/2023 at 15:31, Mister M said:

Cummings made the claims about Sunak at his appearance at the Covid Inquiry, which were corroborated by Sir Patrick Vallance yesterday:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rishi-sunak-covid-inquiry-boris-johnson-b2450548.html

Ether Sunak or Johnson said that remark ,But they are on the line and riddling.I am looking forward to hearing those two in the inquiry, Billy Lier won’t have nothing on those two .One or two who would like Sunaks job will be keeping a close eye on events 

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1 minute ago, Axe said:

 

Typical nonsense contributions.  Enough said.

You're exactly right  -  it is complete nonsense to appoint Medical & Scientific Advisors and then not ask their advice and make those decisions yourself.

This is going to be a particularly interesting answer which advisors everywhere will welcome,  as no one can figure out the thinking of a government who employs experts so they can  bypass them.

Your right wing Tory creeping makes you a laughing stock.   Surprised you haven't suggested a Minister for truth and put Boris up for the job. 

It will be enough said when you start making posts with enough sense in them to make it worthwhile replying to them.

 

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