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9 minutes ago, El Cid said:

India: COVID deaths 191 per 100k
Britain: COVID deaths 1,872 per 100k

 

Still similar, but it suits our MPs to think other countries have got it worse than the UK

I agree. There's much sleight of hand going on here. For many people the super large figures etc are too large to fully comprehend and they're scarey. But when you break it down into percentages and compare with other percentages a different story emerges.

You have to ask yourself why the government wish to keep up the narrative, and suppress alternative points of view. 

 

The problem in India has been it's lack of a cohesive health system.

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8 minutes ago, whiteowl said:

It's almost like a cult - you can see it on here, it doesn't matter what he does, people will defend him.

It's the same with everything on here though. No one likes to be seen to be backing the wrong horse.

 

Anna with her posts implying Corbyn is the answer to the world's problems.

 

The people on the Brexit thread with basically every post summed up as

 

"See, this has happened because of Brexit"

 

"No, it's because of xyz"

 

People can't be seen to be wrong. Even online where no one actually knows each other.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Delayed said:

It's the same with everything on here though. No one likes to be seen to be backing the wrong horse.

 

Anna with her posts implying Corbyn is the answer to the world's problems.

 

The people on the Brexit thread with basically every post summed up as

 

"See, this has happened because of Brexit"

 

"No, it's because of xyz"

 

People can't be seen to be wrong. Even online where no one actually knows each other.

 

 

 

This is right, because in alot of cases somebody IS wrong but cannot admit it. Worse still, the media (BBC are the worse for this) will allow something wrong - a lie, not a different opinion to stand as a fact, or at best an opinion.

 

I'm wrong about loads of stuff.

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15 minutes ago, Mr Allen said:

Meh, I voted remain for Brexit, because I knew from the start that the Tories would make a total Sow's Purse of the whole "deal" :loopy: 

 

Before the EU referendum Brexit was never a Tory policy.  There was both cross party support for and against leaving the EU.  Brexit became a problem implementing due to both interference from the Supreme Court and MPs from all parties not respecting the choice the electorate made which was to leave the EU.  We had a General Election in 2017 that was intended to decide which political party was to implement Brexit.  Unfortunately no single party won a majority which meant Brexit was blocked until after the 2019 December General Election in which the Tories won an eighty seat majority.  The Tory Party never made a total sow's purse of the whole deal that was done by Parliament for not supporting the choice the UK people made in the EU referendum  up until the 2019 General Election.

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Just now, West 77 said:

Before the EU referendum Brexit was never a Tory policy.  There was both cross party support for and against leaving the EU.  Brexit became a problem implementing due to both interference from the Supreme Court and MPs from all parties not respecting the choice the electorate made which was to leave the EU.  We had a General Election in 2017 that was intended to decide which political party was to implement Brexit.  Unfortunately no single party won a majority which meant Brexit was blocked until after the 2019 December General Election in which the Tories won an eighty seat majority.  The Tory Party never made a total sow's purse of the whole deal that was done by Parliament for not supporting the choice the UK people made in the EU referendum  up until the 2019 General Election.

See? Wrong.

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11 minutes ago, Delayed said:

It's the same with everything on here though. No one likes to be seen to be backing the wrong horse.

 

Anna with her posts implying Corbyn is the answer to the world's problems.

 

The people on the Brexit thread with basically every post summed up as

 

"See, this has happened because of Brexit"

 

"No, it's because of xyz"

 

People can't be seen to be wrong. Even online where no one actually knows each other.

 

 

 

Boris is a charismatic 'people person' for sure, and therefore is a good face for the Tory party, but that's about it. His other skills leave a lot to be desired and his character is more than a little dubious to say the least. IMO he is a disaster.

What's interesting is that the British like a posh boy, and automatically look up to them. Same with the Royal Family and Aristocracy. I don't know if it's just the British character or if it's the influence of the media. Judging a person by their appearance/front, especially when it comes to politics, seems to me to be the height of lunacy. 

 

Never judge a book by it's cover...

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43 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Boris is a charismatic 'people person' for sure, and therefore is a good face for the Tory party, but that's about it. His other skills leave a lot to be desired and his character is more than a little dubious to say the least. IMO he is a disaster.

What's interesting is that the British like a posh boy, and automatically look up to them. Same with the Royal Family and Aristocracy. I don't know if it's just the British character or if it's the influence of the media. Judging a person by their appearance/front, especially when it comes to politics, seems to me to be the height of lunacy. 

 

Never judge a book by it's cover...

As it happens I looked Boris Johnson up on Wikipedia this week, apparently he was born on the upper East side of New York, to an English father and I think, a Polish Mother.

 

 

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2 hours ago, El Cid said:

People love Boris Johnson, they wont shift their opinion, its crazy.

That is similar to those who love Corbyn when he was leader of the Labor party.

 

1 hour ago, whiteowl said:

It's almost like a cult - you can see it on here, it doesn't matter what he does, people will defend him.

But as said that also goes for Corbyn as Labour members believe he was targeted by the press and never did anything wrong.

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44 minutes ago, apelike said:

That is similar to those who love Corbyn when he was leader of the Labor party.

 

But as said that also goes for Corbyn as Labour members believe he was targeted by the press and never did anything wrong.

Fair comments.

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After the palaver of Johnson's tacky £840 a roll gold wallpaper and who paid for it, it seems that the said wallpaper has not been put up properly, so specialist decorators have been brought in:

Experts are called back in to fix Boris Johnson's costly Downing Street decor | Daily Mail Online

 

Seems like 'spaffing up the wall' didn't do the job Boris 🤢

Expect the begging bowl to go round at your local Conservative branch meeting

 

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Don't think much of your choice of reading material, @Mister M🤣

 

A lot of supposition in that 'report' - 'it is reported to be' 'it is thought to be' - with no concrete evidence or sources.

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1 hour ago, Mister M said:

After the palaver of Johnson's tacky £840 a roll gold wallpaper and who paid for it, it seems that the said wallpaper has not been put up properly, so specialist decorators have been brought in:

Experts are called back in to fix Boris Johnson's costly Downing Street decor | Daily Mail Online

 

Seems like 'spaffing up the wall' didn't do the job Boris 🤢

Expect the begging bowl to go round at your local Conservative branch meeting

 

The Daily Mail  has been roundly slaughtered on this forum for false or biased reporting , yet now you are happy to quote them . Hypocritical or what ?

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