The Conservative Party - Part Two.

[Anna B 1,414]

1 hour ago, hackey lad said:

You have just blamed the Media and now you are blaming me . Is it anyone elses fault Jeremy didnt win ?

I'm not blaming you for Corbyn's losing the last election, but for not caring that the media (or more accurately those behind the media) were allowed to dictate who won the last election. And it will be the same for any candidate who the media disapproves off.

The media is hugely influential, it's virtually impossible to not be influenced by it. And they will see to it that any candidate that intends to support the people rather than the elite will be castigated as 'left wing' 'dangerous' even 'communist' etc.

It's how the elite keep the power in their in their domain.

Yet it's the Socialists who support the ordinary people and who have fought for the rights and benefits they enjoy. But which the Tories have been dismantling for the last decade under the guise of privatisation and  'Austerity.'  

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4 hours ago, Anna B said:

I'm not blaming you for Corbyn's losing the last election, but for not caring that the media (or more accurately those behind the media) were allowed to dictate who won the last election. And it will be the same for any candidate who the media disapproves off.

The media is hugely influential, it's virtually impossible to not be influenced by it. And they will see to it that any candidate that intends to support the people rather than the elite will be castigated as 'left wing' 'dangerous' even 'communist' etc.

It's how the elite keep the power in their in their domain.

Yet it's the Socialists who support the ordinary people and who have fought for the rights and benefits they enjoy. But which the Tories have been dismantling for the last decade under the guise of privatisation and  'Austerity.'  

Can you tell us exactly what rights and benefits the Tories have dismantled in the last decade?

Edited January 17, 2022 by Dromedary

[Anna B 1,414]

2 hours ago, Dromedary said:

Can you tell us exactly what benefits the Tories have dismantled in the last decade?

Have you not seen the way every council in the country has been struggling trying to fill its obligations in spite of ever dwindling funds due to Tory 'Austerity' cuts?

Services have been slashed to the bone or simply no longer available at all.  Why has 'SureStart' for youngsters been abandoned? Why have day centres for the disabled been closed down? Why have lunch clubs for the Elderly been withdrawn?

All these just for a start, and prior to covid.

No Profits, that's why.

 

The treatment of the disabled has been scandalous, and the councils' obligations to them 'relaxed' by tricksy wording of the disabilities act, so councils can wriggle out of them. Privatised care homes can pick and chose who they take in their homes based not on need but who they can make most money out of and fees go ever upwards for very little in return. Many old people with serious mental health conditions quite simply can't find a place because they are deemed too much trouble. And councils consider them too expensive. Boris' claims of money going into various services simply means the money is being fed by the back door into the back pockets of cronies, not to the grass roots level, they see none of it. Everything is being 'outsourced' instead of being dealt with 'in house' and so has to make a profit for the shareholders. The clients and carers come last when they should come first.

 

NHS health services are going the same way. Everything is being 'outsourced' (privatised) instead of being dealt with 'in house' where price and quality can be controlled. Can you explain to me why in spite of our serious need of doctors, and many very well qualified students wanting to become doctors, two thirds of the places available in medical schools go to overseas students? Why is mental health care virtually none existant and waiting lists endless? What happened to 'care in the community?' 

Boris' claims that large amounts of money are going into the NHS are baloney - it's going in but is being syphoned off into the back pockets of cronies who are busy keeping share holders happy. Those on the front line see none of it. 

 

And don't get me started on Education... Why have schools been privatised to become accademies, having to buy in extra resources at exhorbitant costs, which were once provided by the local Education authorities? And having to find sponsors to shore them up? 

 

Remember when the customer was always right and treated personally with respect? Well forget that. Now they are just fodder to be fobbed off with any old rubbish, and customer care is in the hands of some spotty teenager in a call centre, under contract but without the knowledge or experience to be able to help. Or even worse, a machine telling you to push buttons ad infinitum until it cuts you off mid stream. But it's cheap and that increases profits so who cares?  

 

Life under the Tories. It's one big mess. Pure and simple.

 

 

 

Edited January 17, 2022 by Anna B

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8 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Have you not seen the way every council in the country has been struggling trying to fill its obligations in spite of ever dwindling funds due to Tory 'Austerity' cuts?

Services have been slashed to the bone or simply no longer available at all.  Why has 'SureStart' for youngsters been abandoned? Why have day centres for the disabled been closed down? Why have lunch clubs for the Elderly been withdrawn?

All these just for a start, and prior to covid.

But you have not answered the question I posed and instead just used some personal views.

 

Notice how Sheffield Council and a lot of others around the country have not slashed or cut services, have also met their legal obligations and have used their reserves to meet the needs. I'll say it again.. reserves... as they seemed to have accumulated spare money while at the same time complaining about lack of funding. SCC want to spend £100,000 on a hoarding to wrap round the ex John Lewis store, do you honestly  think that is Council money well spent?

 

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The party of Bullcrap and liars, cant even organise a garden party, and still borrowing more than labour ever did.

Hopefully consigned to the bin at the next GE and never heard from again, this lot have to be the worst ever  right up there with Thatchers out of touch pocket liners.

[Anna B 1,414]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

I acknowledge the media have never been friendly towards Jeremy Corbyn.   Things may have been different if Jeremy Corbyn hadn't been a terrorist sympathiser and gone for a drink with the IRA terrorist Gerry Adams or invited him to the House of Commons shortly after the Brighton bombing.  Someone running for the position of British prime minister who refuses to condemn the actions of the IRA deserve to be slaughtered by the media in my opinion. 

Corbyn was a peacemaker. You can't make peace without dialogue. 

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One of Johnson's puppets, Zahawi, claims that the bungling idiot is not in danger of losing his job: "...he's human and we make mistakes".

 

Johnson is certainly good at that!

 

[melthebell 863]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

I acknowledge the media have never been friendly towards Jeremy Corbyn.   Things may have been different if Jeremy Corbyn hadn't been a terrorist sympathiser and gone for a drink with the IRA terrorist Gerry Adams or invited him to the House of Commons shortly after the Brighton bombing.  Someone running for the position of British prime minister who refuses to condemn the actions of the IRA deserve to be slaughtered by the media in my opinion. 

Like when Thatcher negotiated with terrorists even though her government "dont negotiate with terrorists"?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16366413

 

Thatcher "secretly" pardoning an IRA terrorist just after the Brighton bomb

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11062418/Thatcher-granted-secret-pardon-to-IRA-terrorist.html

 

Or the Queen shaking hands with Mcguiness

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/never-thought-id-see-day-reflecting-queens-historic-meeting-ex-flna848300

 

 

Edited January 17, 2022 by melthebell

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Corbyn was a peacemaker. You can't make peace without dialogue. 

He was no Mo Mowlam though.

[Anna B 1,414]

35 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

He was no Mo Mowlam though.

I liked Mo Mowlam very much, but that's going back a bit.  IMO  the media have got a lot more partisan and biased since, and the electorate need to realise how much they are being manipulated by the big boys.

Meanwhile Corbyn won the Ghandi Peace Prize for his negotiating skills. Just sayin.' 

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10 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Meanwhile Corbyn won the Ghandi Peace Prize for his negotiating skills. Just sayin.' 

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A few months ago, Corbyn’s supporters began to rebut questions about his commitment to peace by asserting that he was a winner of the Gandhi Peace Prize. The prize is bestowed annually by the Indian government for 'contributions towards social, economic and political transformation through non-violence and other Gandhian methods'. Past winners include Nelson Mandela, Václav Havel, and Desmond Tutu.
 

A cursory Google yields that it was in fact never awarded to Corbyn. But in 2013 he was given the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award. The prize was bestowed by the Gandhi Foundation at a ceremony in Portcullis House—his place of work. The foundation is run from a community centre in Bromley and brands itself as 'the UK’s leading Gandhi organisation'.

Once Jeremy’s award had, in the minds of his base, morphed into a prestigious one of a similar name, it was only a small leap to Nobel laureateship and the most prestigious peace award in the world.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jeremy-corbyn-s-road-to-sainthood

Meanwhile, here's all the real winners:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_Peace_Prize

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26 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jeremy-corbyn-s-road-to-sainthood

Meanwhile, here's all the real winners:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_Peace_Prize

Blessed are the peacemakers....