altus   537 #2185 Posted July 28, 2021 6 hours ago, West 77 said: All the Tory cabinet support Brexit. I seem to remember Boris withdrawing the whip from anti Brexit Tory MPs before the last general election. That is how he managed to get Brexit done by fielding only candidates in the 2019 December general election who supported Brexit. You keep claiming brexit has been done so there's no need to put only brexit supporters into cabinet posts. Even if you think some posts, such as those related to international trade, should be reserved for true beleavers some departments are completely unrelated to brexit so, for example, there's no need to put serial incompetents like Gavin Williamson into posts like education. For the country's interest, it's time for Boris to put the people best able to do the job into posts rather than those who most support brexit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   812 #2186 Posted July 28, 2021 I see the bumbling buffoon was up to his party tricks again today.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #2187 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, West 77 said: It's a historic fact Brexit has been done. Strangely enough, What i'm reading now is the government want to undo brexit now as their own oven ready deal isnt good enough apparently Edited July 28, 2021 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey   631 #2188 Posted July 28, 2021 4 hours ago, sibon said: I agree entirely. We should all stick to being accurate in our descriptions of the incompetent, racist , dishonest, untruthful PM Johnson. He doesn’t care what you and your like think of him, he’s in power by a huge majority, Labour hasn’t got a hope of beating the Tories. As someone with no political affiliations I would say that less of the sticky out tongues and more of the old style Labour back street fighting would be the order of the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   812 #2189 Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, crookesey said: He doesn’t care what you and your like think of him, he’s in power by a huge majority, Labour hasn’t got a hope of beating the Tories. As someone with no political affiliations I would say that less of the sticky out tongues and more of the old style Labour back street fighting would be the order of the day. Says someone with no political affiliations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   537 #2190 Posted July 28, 2021 4 hours ago, West 77 said: It's a historic fact Brexit has been done. All the more reason why a government of true beleavers isn't neccesary. Quote You're clearly confused and ignorant. The former chancellor under Boris Johnson and new health secretary Sajid Javid voted and campaigned to remain in the EU. The reason why Sajid Javid is still a Tory MP and as held two important positions in the cabinet during Boris Johnson's time as Prime Minister is because he respects democracy and now supports Brexit as well as having the ability necessary to do the important jobs given. to him by our Prime Minister. I'm neither confused not ignorant. One counter example doesn't invalidate my point. Williamson is still in place, as are Jenrick, Whatley, Bethell and numerous others. The only reason Hancock isn't is because he got caught snogging an old flame and couldn't brazen it out even with Boris's full support. He didn't leave because of his failings and use of private email for government business. Boris's previous independent advisor on ministerial standards resigned because Boris doesn't take them seriously. His replacement just provides a fig leaf for the cabinet member's misdemeanours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad   3,949 #2191 Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Mister Gee said: I see the bumbling buffoon was up to his party tricks again today.   You really are pathetic 4 hours ago, Mister Gee said: Says someone with no political affiliations. And again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike   10 #2192 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, melthebell said: Strangely enough, What i'm reading now is the government want to undo brexit now as their own oven ready deal isnt good enough apparently Where were you reading that?... the Beano? Edited July 28, 2021 by apelike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey   631 #2193 Posted July 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Mister Gee said: Says someone with no political affiliations. Who do I support then, it would be very helpful as I have no idea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spilldig   187 #2194 Posted July 29, 2021 On 28/07/2021 at 09:19, West 77 said: They just embarrass themselves by resorting to name calling.  I'm just reporting the real truthful facts. No knots, no twisting and no turning. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #2195 Posted July 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, spilldig said: On 28/07/2021 at 09:19, West 77 said: They just embarrass themselves by resorting to name calling.  I'm just reporting the real truthful facts. No knots, no twisting and no turning. Exactly. My bold. This nonsense (the bold bit) should not be encouraged or we will have more 'reflexive testimonials' from the king of Pfeffelspaff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   537 #2196 Posted July 29, 2021 9 hours ago, West 77 said: I will add two more examples if one isn't enough. You mentioned Gavin Williamson and Matt Hancock who both also voted to remain in the EU. I've blown your ignorant view that Boris only gives top jobs to those who supported leaving the EU in the referendum out of the water. I did refer to people best able to do the job. Williamson and Hancock have both repeatedly demonstrated they don't fit that category. Besides which, politicians who change their views to match the way the political wind is currently blowing so as to maximise their own career opportunities rarely govern for the public's benefit.  More evidence of Hancock lying to parliament. Quote Ex-health secretary said 'vast majority' were 'onside' with GP data grab. Consumer champion Which? reckons 20 million don't even know what it is Guess what? When people find out about the scheme, trust in the NHS falls  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...