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The Conservative Party - Part Two.

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3 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

She was obviously using the same method.

The winning method ?

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8 hours ago, Delayed said:

And yet all those things all occured after the conservatives were voted in.

 

So voters are being blamed for not having the gift of foresight?

Surely a good degree of foresight is necessary if you are voting. I don't expect people to be prescient, but you can make assessments about how people are going to be if elected, based on their current and past behaviour. So if during an election campaign, for example, someone refuses to look at a photo of a child sleeping on a hospital floor because of a lack of beds, hides in a walk-in fridge to avoid journalists' questions, refuses to go on TV to be interviewed, and has form for writing racist and Islamophobic articles, criticised the children of single mothers despite having fathered several himself, and there is a slew of comments from people who have worked with him and known him well, describing him as a completely unprincipled, selfish psycopath - shouldn't that ring some alarm bells? Of course it should. So voting for a party led by that person is asking for trouble, and it's daft to suggest that no-one could see what kind of government might result from that.

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17 minutes ago, Delbow said:

Surely a good degree of foresight is necessary if you are voting. I don't expect people to be prescient, but you can make assessments about how people are going to be if elected, based on their current and past behaviour. So if during an election campaign, for example, someone refuses to look at a photo of a child sleeping on a hospital floor because of a lack of beds, hides in a walk-in fridge to avoid journalists' questions, refuses to go on TV to be interviewed, and has form for writing racist and Islamophobic articles, criticised the children of single mothers despite having fathered several himself, and there is a slew of comments from people who have worked with him and known him well, describing him as a completely unprincipled, selfish psycopath - shouldn't that ring some alarm bells? Of course it should. So voting for a party led by that person is asking for trouble, and it's daft to suggest that no-one could see what kind of government might result from that.

A fine post is that Delbow.

Edited by Mister Gee

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53 minutes ago, Delbow said:

...... So voting for a party led by that person is asking for trouble, and it's daft to suggest that no-one could see what kind of government might result from that.

 

A classic example of why Corbyn and Labour are not in power as people could actually see and judge what mayhem would occur!

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24 minutes ago, apelike said:

 

A classic example of why Corbyn and Labour are not in power as people could actually see and judge what mayhem would occur!

It’s a familiar refrain amongst us older Sheffielders but they should never have shut Middlewood.

Edited by Mister Gee

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1 hour ago, Mister Gee said:

It’s a familiar refrain amongst us older Sheffielders but they should never have shut Middlewood.

They shut it! I thought that's where The Joker lived.... :)

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3 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Wow, the stereotyping and name calling is rife on here , especially from the losing side . If it was the other way round we would hear the loud  roar of "Gammon" being shouted back .

Even when Labour haven't been in Government, familiar taunts of 'Loony leftie', ' Champagne Socialist', 'muesli eating, sandal wearing....', 'Woke', 'politically correct brigade', 'bleeding heart liberals' etc.....And not just on here - ever since I can remember newspapers have been full of invective about councils banning Christmas, renaming it 'Winterval', stoking up stupid culture wars etc

 

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22 hours ago, Mister M said:

Even when Labour haven't been in Government, familiar taunts of 'Loony leftie', ' Champagne Socialist', 'muesli eating, sandal wearing....', 'Woke', 'politically correct brigade', 'bleeding heart liberals' etc.....And not just on here - ever since I can remember newspapers have been full of invective about councils banning Christmas, renaming it 'Winterval', stoking up stupid culture wars etc

 

Thats ok then ?

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Our dear leader was "great" on PMQs yesterday - rather than address the question about the UKs dreadful rape conviction record started banging on about how the conservatives "jab while the opposition jabber"

 

Stay classy Boris. And mr speaker, do you ****ing job.

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37 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Our dear leader was "great" on PMQs yesterday - rather than address the question about the UKs dreadful rate conviction record started banging on about how the conservatives "jab while the opposition jabber"

 

Stay classy Boris. And mr speaker, do you ****ing job.

I heard it too. Johnson really has got a low opinion of his supporters hasn't he? He thinks he can make inappropriate comments in the context of rape and sexual assaults, one of the grimmest crimes one can endure; yet he seems to think all he has to do is throw the red meat of Brexit to voters, or provoke some stupid culture war, and the voters will stay loyal no matter what.

He probably has his voters down as knuckle draggers salivating over Brexit, so he can indulge his gauche references to victims of sex crimes. Johnson will never change, because he doesn't need to.

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27 minutes ago, West 77 said:

You do know that not everyone who claims to have been raped is telling the truth?  Often the evidence is just one person's word against another person's word.  The way to increase rape convictions is to change the law and make everyone guilty until proven  innocent then there would be more convictions for rape. Would you be happy if more innocent people were sent to jail for rape?

 

The question was nothing more than political point scoring and Boris gave an appropriate reply.

No he didnt, and no it wasn't.

 

It was a result of the publishing of the government's own report.

 

That didn't take long did it.

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