Guest sibon #10177 Posted October 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: True to form you are spreading misinformation. Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland have all had requirements to wear a face mask in some public spaces. You can check this for yourself at Our World in Data. Also, I think that Sweden relied heavily on personal responsibility. Something that the U.K. is unable to do, for reasons which are made obvious by this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,414 #10178 Posted October 22, 2021 Covid is never going to be 100% eliminated, so the 'pandemic' is never going to be over, just like flu is never over. It reoccurs every winter. We have to learn to live with it. So do those advocating the wearing of masks and other measures really want to be wearing them for the rest of their lives? And insist on everyone else wearing them too? Masks limit social interaction. They're uncomfortable. Discarded masks are all over the place, and add to landfill. And, as a deaf person who relies a great deal on lip reading, they hinder communication. Wearing masks for ever is not an option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle 0 #10179 Posted October 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, sibon said: Also, I think that Sweden relied heavily on personal responsibility. Something that the U.K. is unable to do, for reasons which are made obvious by this thread. Indeed, we have an excess of f**kwits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon #10180 Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Anna B said: Covid is never going to be 100% eliminated, so the 'pandemic' is never going to be over, just like flu is never over. It reoccurs every winter. We have to learn to live with it. So do those advocating the wearing of masks and other measures really want to be wearing them for the rest of their lives? And insist on everyone else wearing them too? Masks limit social interaction. They're uncomfortable. Discarded masks are all over the place, and add to landfill. And, as a deaf person who relies a great deal on lip reading, they hinder communication. Wearing masks for ever is not an option. Just put one on for now. Soon enough you won’t need to. And do read a bit more about pandemics and viral infections. Then you might see the point of the health messages. Whatever you do, don’t join the lunatic fringe 3 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: Indeed, we have an excess of f**kwits. I’d prefer the word “prevalence “ to “excess”. The rest of your post is bang on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 601 #10181 Posted October 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Anna B said: Covid is never going to be 100% eliminated, so the 'pandemic' is never going to be over, just like flu is never over. It reoccurs every winter. We have to learn to live with it. So do those advocating the wearing of masks and other measures really want to be wearing them for the rest of their lives? And insist on everyone else wearing them too? Masks limit social interaction. They're uncomfortable. Discarded masks are all over the place, and add to landfill. And, as a deaf person who relies a great deal on lip reading, they hinder communication. Wearing masks for ever is not an option. No - and as far as I know it's never been advocated by anyone on here, Vaccination will bring it under control - but we're not there yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka #10182 Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Longcol said: No - and as far as I know it's never been advocated by anyone on here, Vaccination will bring it under control - but we're not there yet. No it won’t. Why would vaccination stop people catching Covid ? 1 hour ago, Longcol said: I'll wear a seatbelt in the unlikely chance I'm involved in a road accident. I'll wear a mask in places where I see fit in the unlikely chance I'll catch covid or could pass it on if I was asymptomatic / pre -symptomatic. Why don’t you wear a crash helmet in the unlikely chance you fall and bang your head on the kerb? Edited October 22, 2021 by makapaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon #10183 Posted October 23, 2021 7 hours ago, makapaka said: No it won’t. Why would vaccination stop people catching Covid ? That’s what vaccination does. It protects against infection, and also against serious infection. Infected Vaccinated people are contagious for less time than unvaccinated people. That also limits the spread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol 612 #10184 Posted October 23, 2021 9 hours ago, top4718 said: So get them to take precautions that work and spare the rest of us. The only people that are making this last for longer are the idiots that are complying with the lies and deception, if everyone went about their normal lives its over. Isn't "...them..." and "...us..." a dangerous escalation of the Conspiracy Theorists view of the World? Isn't it a fact that hundreds of thousands of "...us..." didn't realise they were "...them..." until they became seriously ill or dead? I congratulate you on passing the Conspiracy Theorists test by including three key principles in one sentence : Blaming the unenlightened, non believers or "...idiots..." as you call them, is needed for a good Conspiracy Theory. Accusing people of "...complying with the lies and deception..." of some unseen force is a requirement of a Conspiracy Theory. Telling people that salvation is at hand if only they would follow the Conspiracy Theory way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka #10185 Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, sibon said: That’s what vaccination does. It protects against infection, and also against serious infection. Infected Vaccinated people are contagious for less time than unvaccinated people. That also limits the spread. I know. But despite a massive vaccination drive we’re still in the same position of people insisting on wearing face masks etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell 863 #10186 Posted October 23, 2021 11 hours ago, sibon said: The clowns aren’t the ones in charge. oh i dont know, they make a good job of it, being a clown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon #10187 Posted October 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, makapaka said: I know. But despite a massive vaccination drive we’re still in the same position of people insisting on wearing face masks etc There are still plenty of unvaccinated people out there. I’m double jabbed and pretty well doing everything I used to do. Like many people. So the vax program has improved things. It all takes time though. I’d like to see the way the stats are reported change. Number of infections isn’t really very important any more. Number of serious infections is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka #10188 Posted October 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, sibon said: There are still plenty of unvaccinated people out there. I’m double jabbed and pretty well doing everything I used to do. Like many people. So the vax program has improved things. It all takes time though. I’d like to see the way the stats are reported change. Number of infections isn’t really very important any more. Number of serious infections is. Totally agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...