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On 15/09/2020 at 11:16, ECCOnoob said:

Has anyone actually bothered to ask the question WHY there are no tests available and WHY there are all these backlogs?

 

I'm seeing lots of heated opinion, finger pointing and blame game but nobody actually giving the facts as to what exactly the problem is and how exactly it can be resolved.  

A couple of weeks ago they were offering tests willy-nilly, anyone could just order one. They've now revised the conditions.

 

It wasn't clear what the test could do either, I was under the impression it could tell you if you've already had coronavirus because my brother in law had a test and found he'd had it.

 

A few weeks ago I ordered one Wednesday afternoon because I'm a key worker - that was one of the options on the order list.

 

It arrived Thursday morning.  It was in the post Thursday afternoon and I had my results by text Friday afternoon.  

 

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2 hours ago, apelike said:

I could but notice I was asking a question to Longcol. 

 

But... Testing only confirms that the person being tested has either had it/has it or not got it at the time of the test only.

 

I don't know as no source of the quote has been given!

The source of the quote is Atilla the stockbroker but that doesnt matter, surely if the "facts" in it can be verified then its true? I meant if its proved to be false then its left wing crap

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32 minutes ago, melthebell said:

The source of the quote is Atilla the stockbroker but that doesnt matter, surely if the "facts" in it can be verified then its true? I meant if its proved to be false then its left wing crap

If its from a stockbroker then it does matter as a stockbroker makes a living from trading in shares from corporate-run, profit-centred companies so its a bit suspicious and cannot to be trusted as "facts" at all. In traditional SF banter, you should not quote something without giving it source as the origin of it is important.

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6 minutes ago, apelike said:

If its from a stockbroker then it does matter as a stockbroker makes a living from trading in shares from corporate-run, profit-centred companies so its a bit suspicious and cannot to be trusted as "facts" at all. In traditional SF banter, you should not quote something without giving it source as the origin of it is important.

Attilla the Stockbroker isn’t a stockbroker 

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1 hour ago, Pettytom said:

Attilla the Stockbroker isn’t a stockbroker 

That just my point as I would not know unless a link to the source of the quote was provided! :huh:

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If you’re going to copy and paste please also include a link to the original source.

 

Thank you.

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3 hours ago, apelike said:

That just my point as I would not know unless a link to the source of the quote was provided! :huh:

 

3 hours ago, nikki-red said:

If you’re going to copy and paste please also include a link to the original source.

 

Thank you.

It was a facebook post Atilla the stockbroker wrote, i have no idea how you copy a single post, and anybody whos not on facebook wouldnt be able to read it anyway, and a single post gives you no more information apart from what he wrote (that i copied) and who he is.

 

The point i copied it for still stands, can the "facts" he wrote be verified? i havent seen anybody else bring up these points as to why testing is struggling so i found it interesting. If anybody wants to research the points in the text to check it out.

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18 hours ago, apelike said:

Why, do you think that testing somehow stops a second wave happening or lessens the way people get infected.?

Where did I say testing stops a second wave?

 

It can certainly identify people with the virus so they can self isolate and hopefully not transmit the virus. It allows HMG / local councils to see where high numbers are being infected so can inform decisions eg local lockdowns to reduce transmission.

 

We can't stop the virus until a suitable vaccine is found - we can reduce transmission.

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30 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Where did I say testing stops a second wave?

You didn't but certainly implied it in this quote by you:

 

"Odd that there was all the talk of a second wave but nobody thought to substantially  increase testing capacity in advance of returns to work / school / pubs re-opening etc etc."

 

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It can certainly identify people with the virus so they can self isolate and hopefully not transmit the virus.

Anyone with symptoms should be doing that already.

 

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It allows HMG / local councils to see where high numbers are being infected so can inform decisions eg local lockdowns to reduce transmission.

As said before, this is all about a panic attitude from the press and government and this sort of thing is what happens as a result.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-essex-54181548

 

People need to get a grip and get on with life and understand that very few normal healthy people have died from it, and that covers around 99% of the population.

 

 

30 minutes ago, Longcol said:

We can't stop the virus until a suitable vaccine is found - we can reduce transmission.

But by doing that we are just prolonging the problem, what we have to do is adjust to living with it as it may be years yet before a vaccine is available. 

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My son was feeling poorly saturday, didnt manage to get covid test till tuesday through post. We were both trying from saturday but no tests available either walk in or drive thru. How bad is this? He couldnt return to work so was unpaid for 5 days . Just had negative result back so  can return to work tomorrow . This government need step up and see what effect the lack of tests are having on normal working class people.

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11 hours ago, megona said:

My son was feeling poorly saturday, didnt manage to get covid test till tuesday through post. We were both trying from saturday but no tests available either walk in or drive thru. How bad is this? He couldnt return to work so was unpaid for 5 days . Just had negative result back so  can return to work tomorrow . This government need step up and see what effect the lack of tests are having on normal working class people.

as the vast majority of people feel no symptoms  with Covid,  if your son was feeling unwell, statistically he  was more likely to be unwell  from any one of the thousands of things that do have symptoms than of covid.

 

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59 minutes ago, Easy livin said:

as the vast majority of people feel no symptoms  with Covid,  if your son was feeling unwell, statistically he  was more likely to be unwell  from any one of the thousands of things that do have symptoms than of covid.

 

Who says that the vast majority of Covid cases experience no symptoms?

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