melthebell   863 #9805 Posted September 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, top4718 said: have a look into who has gained in the last 18 months (clue - its isn't the poor). youre doing it again, mixing bull**** with real conspiracies, ive just said theyve made money out of it, thats plain to see i agree, but with businesses closed the dirty capitalists have lost money. we pay for their profits, shares etc by working, if that works not happening they dont earn their obscene profits. Its how the world has been for all of human evolution.  again, theyve lost more with the economies being shut down than theyve made cos of covid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #9806 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, melthebell said: youre doing it again, mixing bull**** with real conspiracies, ive just said theyve made money out of it, thats plain to see i agree, but with businesses closed the dirty capitalists have lost money. we pay for their profits, shares etc by working, if that works not happening they dont earn their obscene profits. Its how the world has been for all of human evolution.  again, theyve lost more with the economies being shut down than theyve made cos of covid. bit naive…  https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/747a76dd-f018-4d0d-a9f3-4069bf2f5a93  https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/07/covid-19-crisis-boosts-the-fortunes-of-worlds-billionaires Edited September 29, 2021 by makapaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delayed   465 #9807 Posted September 29, 2021 5 hours ago, top4718 said: The furlough money comes out of taxes, selling masks and having shares in companies that are profiting from Covid goes straight into their pockets, a major difference, have a look into who has gained in the last 18 months (clue - its isn't the poor).  On a different note what's happened to Covid, hardly hear it mentioned now, have they milked it dry? It's in the news everyday still. Just because it isn't the main headline doesn't mean it's not being reported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bargepole23   337 #9808 Posted September 30, 2021 18 hours ago, top4718 said: The furlough money comes out of taxes, selling masks and having shares in companies that are profiting from Covid goes straight into their pockets, a major difference, have a look into who has gained in the last 18 months (clue - its isn't the poor).  On a different note what's happened to Covid, hardly hear it mentioned now, have they milked it dry? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58736720  Still in the news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #9809 Posted September 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Delayed said: It's in the news everyday still. Just because it isn't the main headline doesn't mean it's not being reported. Indeed, on the BBC news page I just counted 7 covid related stories lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delayed   465 #9810 Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, melthebell said: Indeed, on the BBC news page I just counted 7 covid related stories lol None so blind.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #9811 Posted September 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Bargepole23 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58736720  Still in the news. This is also in the news, another statistic that shows the death rates have been inflated, I’ve said before the fallout from this nonsense in deaths will far eclipse anything directly caused by Covid. https://news.sky.com/story/england-and-wales-records-more-than-70-000-excess-deaths-in-private-homes-since-start-of-covid-19-pandemic-12420482 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #9812 Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, top4718 said: This is also in the news, another statistic that shows the death rates have been inflated, I’ve said before the fallout from this nonsense in deaths will far eclipse anything directly caused by Covid. https://news.sky.com/story/england-and-wales-records-more-than-70-000-excess-deaths-in-private-homes-since-start-of-covid-19-pandemic-12420482 And? Where in your link does it state these excess deaths were attributed to covid? I've read it (probably unlike you) and it states covid deaths and excess deaths. Did you do the maths to see if attributed deaths are correct? Or just scrambling around in the dark for anything that seems to back up your narrative? Deaths happen, other deaths sadly will happen from other causes, people have been unable to go to hospital, that doesn't mean there shouldn't have been lockdowns or other measures Edited September 30, 2021 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #9813 Posted September 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, melthebell said: people have been unable to go to hospital, that doesn't mean there shouldn't have been lockdowns or other measures How do you know that?   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #9814 Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, makapaka said: How do you know that?   How do I know what? Anti covid protestors have made clear people have missed appointments and people have got iller as a consequence But That doesn't mean there shouldn't have been measures to mitigate covid.  As the saying goes **** happens, being in the middle of a global pandemic ain't perfect, craps gonna happen  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #9815 Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, melthebell said: How do I know what? Anti covid protestors have made clear people have missed appointments and people have got iller as a consequence But That doesn't mean there shouldn't have been measures to mitigate covid.  As the saying goes **** happens, being in the middle of a global pandemic ain't perfect, craps gonna happen  It’s not perfect - but that’s not much consolation for a young person who’s got terminal cancer because they couldn’t get a hospital appointment sooner.   Edited September 30, 2021 by makapaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #9816 Posted September 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, makapaka said: How do you know that?  Are you really challenging the idea that lockdowns reduced the loss of hospital capacity due to covid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...