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1 minute ago, Thirsty Relic said:

On the face of it, yes.  What they had to consider though are factors such as shift workers coming off shift and being fined for something they could reasonably have no knowledge of.  They also had to alert the police, and get them ready for it.  You couldn't suddenly spring a new law out with no notice and expect people to know about it.  In the bigger picture, laws usually become law with a start date of months or years in the future.  Lets face it, we voted to leave the EU, the law was passed ages ago, yet was are still trying to enact it!

 Not that old chesnut its  only wednesday, my god there is enough media to get  the message out,  infact its been on the National news since last Saturday and every day since about the ban commencing at some stage,  dont worry Im not having a chip at this Goverment, Im on about the matter in hand, I would react the same  if Starmer was in power dropping clanger after clanger,  U turn after U turn, Laura kunesburge has just put Boris in his place for all this messing people about.  

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37 minutes ago, Waldo said:

What was the anti-mask / Piers Corby protest in Sheffield all about? Looked like a bunch of low-IQ types being unruly, not wearing any masks and shouting abuse at police.

Piers is a full on conspiracy theorist hanging out with people such as David Icke - Anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine and anti-mask protesters crowd London's Trafalgar Square. He's already been handed a £10,000 fine for his part in that demonstration in London.

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24 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

 Not that old chesnut its  only wednesday, my god there is enough media to get  the message out,  infact its been on the National news since last Saturday and every day since about the ban commencing at some stage,  dont worry Im not having a chip at this Goverment, Im on about the matter in hand, I would react the same  if Starmer was in power dropping clanger after clanger,  U turn after U turn, Laura kunesburge has just put Boris in his place for all this messing people about.  

Apparently they've not finalised all the plans and small print yet, so it would be premature to start it before this weekend.  If they did, I can just see the masses of compo claims people would be throwing around "I did all this planning and expense for this weekend with less than 30 guests/travel/accommodation etc, now I've had to cancel, costing me ££££££££".  It's very rare actually for laws to be passed and come into effect in such short notice - it's usually months or even years before they are fully enacted.  This gives time for trade bodies to put training in place etc.  We're still arguing about how to enact the Brexit law for instance.

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1 hour ago, PRESLEY said:

Boris gets it wrong yet again, the ban on over six people social gathering will commence 14th sep Monday,  WHY NOT NOW,  there will be more chance of people  gathering this weekend  rather than Monday on wards,  Idiot ! :rant:

I would have thought it's very obvious. It's to give people time to adapt to the new rules. To finalise any exemptions or conflicts. To give businesses time to change any of their bookings or procedures or operations.

 

In other words, accommodating and responding to the barrage of complaints the government got last time they introduced a sudden rule change without sufficient notice which caught people out and everyone kicked off about. 

 

Seriously, who would be a politician these days.

Damned if you do damned if you don't..... doesn't even come close to what they face with this bunch of know-it-all public and their bloodthirsty media outlet supporters.

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16 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

I would have thought it's very obvious. It's to give people time to adapt to the new rules. To finalise any exemptions or conflicts. To give businesses time to change any of their bookings or procedures or operations.

 

In other words, accommodating and responding to the barrage of complaints the government got last time they introduced a sudden rule change without sufficient notice which caught people out and everyone kicked off about. 

 

Seriously, who would be a politician these days.

Damned if you do damned if you don't..... doesn't even come close to what they face with this bunch of know-it-all public and their bloodthirsty media outlet supporters.

The Virus doesn't care about time to change bookings or loss of trade/ income ect,  stuff that old chestnut, your hero Boris needs to stop dithering and dilly dallying,  lives matter not bookings, :loopy:

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1 hour ago, altus said:

Piers is a full on conspiracy theorist hanging out with people such as David Icke - Anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine and anti-mask protesters crowd London's Trafalgar Square. He's already been handed a £10,000 fine for his part in that demonstration in London.

Yeah, seems completely bonkers. Educated, but bonkers.

 

 

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4 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

 Not that old chesnut its  only wednesday, my god there is enough media to get  the message out,  infact its been on the National news since last Saturday and every day since about the ban commencing at some stage,  dont worry Im not having a chip at this Goverment, Im on about the matter in hand, I would react the same  if Starmer was in power dropping clanger after clanger,  U turn after U turn, Laura kunesburge has just put Boris in his place for all this messing people about.  

Certainly can't speak for anyone but myself but I've had a complete media black out because of Covid. 

 

I got so sick and tired of the constant barrage if information every single hour, I stopped reading news sites and I don't have much social media, honestly the first I heard of this restriction was from a colleague. I mean I don't particularly see why people right now need to gather in groups of more than a few but again this is just me. 

 

If I'm being honest the most entertaining thing to come from this year has been these threads. Personally I'm far happier going about my businesses without reading the daily terror briefing from any news site. 

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Tomm06 said:

Certainly can't speak for anyone but myself but I've had a complete media black out because of Covid. 

 

I got so sick and tired of the constant barrage if information every single hour, I stopped reading news sites and I don't have much social media, honestly the first I heard of this restriction was from a colleague. I mean I don't particularly see why people right now need to gather in groups of more than a few but again this is just me. 

 

If I'm being honest the most entertaining thing to come from this year has been these threads. Personally I'm far happier going about my businesses without reading the daily terror briefing from any news site. 

 

 

 

I agree fully about the constant,  pardon the pun over kill,  but I limit my self to a media type diet, lol,  I catch the breakfast news for as long as can bear it,(10mins max) then the Six o clock news for about the same  length of time to get a jist of the headlines, main topic up dates,in other words keeping up to date with info on local lock downs ect and special orders from Boris's Kremlin in which the majority of people choose to  ingnore mainly due to total confusion,  after watching the mentioned News reports I find the Forum is the best place to look because  of all the Goverment created confusion , it  is usually Ironed out by Posters and Mods, (not after any Brownie points)  just my personal daily system which could help people after watching the Dynamic Duos (Johnson and Hankcocks)  daily Covid briefing which leaves vast amounts of heads spinning,  them two mentioned  are the reason for Supermarkets ect running out of Paracetomol.  :gag:

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Many years ago, there was an excellent sit-com called "Heartburn Hotel", in which Tim Healy played the hotel manager trying to sort out all kinds of problems with an insane variety of weird guests.  His catch-phrase when all about him was chaotic was "It's  a game, It's a game", while looking shell-shocked.

 

Regularly I recall that catch-phrase when I watch the News these days!

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9 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

I agree fully about the constant,  pardon the pun over kill,  but I limit my self to a media type diet, lol,  I catch the breakfast news for as long as can bear it,(10mins max) then the Six o clock news for about the same  length of time to get a jist of the headlines, main topic up dates,in other words keeping up to date with info on local lock downs ect and special orders from Boris's Kremlin in which the majority of people choose to  ingnore mainly due to total confusion,  after watching the mentioned News reports I find the Forum is the best place to look because  of all the Goverment created confusion , it  is usually Ironed out by Posters and Mods, (not after any Brownie points)  just my personal daily system which could help people after watching the Dynamic Duos (Johnson and Hankcocks)  daily Covid briefing which leaves vast amounts of heads spinning,  them two mentioned  are the reason for Supermarkets ect running out of Paracetomol.  :gag:

I have at no point felt any confusion. We know the rules you tailor them to your needs. Do I need to know the travel restriction for travelling to Portugal? Not really, if I did, I would find out. 

 

The more you listen to the news and then read peoples opinions about it the more ridiculous it becomes. This forum seems very pro lockdown etc and massively Anti Boris/government and other forums are the opposite, I'm happy to read peoples opinions but we all, as the public have access to the same information so I will.make my mind up who I agree with. 

 

As a below 30 (just) male with reasonable health I fancy my chances against this and during my couple of months away from work I registered as a volunteer to pick up bits and pieces for the isolated and I'm perfectly happy to enter public spaces. Honestly? I don't think I would personally bother with a mask if that was my choice but since 'thems the rules' then I will wear one where required. Pretty easy I keep some in the car, in my bag or in my pocket 

 

I honestly do not think it's this hard to go about your business right now, it could certainly be easier mind. 

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Herd Immunity ?

"Unachievable and Unethical . BMJ."

From what I read.

It appears that some degree of "lasting "antibody immunity is necessary to secure Herd Immunity.

 

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m2728

 

 

 BCG vax.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-protection-using-tuberculosis-vaccine.html

I had mine whilst at school-donkey's years ago.

 

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Manston in Thanet has a recently set up  test station.

The local paper reports that a lady applied for an appointment to have a test.

She lives 10 minutes away from Manston. She was offered one in Edinburgh 470 miles away.

Not only that, the station car park was empty each time she passed

A world beating system I don't think.

No doubt we shall be seeing lots of kilt  wearing  wee wullies  in the district.

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