Coronavirus - Part Two.

[Longcol 600]

2 minutes ago, top4718 said:

Are you in the employ of the government or the MSM, you're not only believing this garbage your're justifying it, unbelievable.

 

What are your views on Midazolam and jabbing U16's without consent?

Nope - not heard that since the 9/11 thread 😎

 

I don't agree with jabbing anyone without consent and have stated that previously.

 

Is Midazolam a vaccine? What is it used for?

[top4718 838]

1 minute ago, Carbuncle said:

So ... examining the difference between "died with 28 days ..." and "died from covid" is actually a red herring because the numbers are all made up anyway. Why make specific arguments when you can apply the magical "it's all lies" to everything?

Someone admitted to a hospital with a very serious life threatening illness who then contracts Covid in the hospital is not and never will be a Covid death, they'll be added to the stats though, total sham.

 

What are your views on Midazolam and jabbing U16's without consent?

[Carbuncle 0]

2 minutes ago, top4718 said:

Someone admitted to a hospital with a very serious life threatening illness who then contracts Covid in the hospital is not and never will be a Covid death, they'll be added to the stats though, total sham.

If as you imply "died within 28 days of a positive test" massively exceeds deaths caused by covid how is it that the vaccines have massively reduced deaths within 28 days of a positive test?  It has gone from 1 death per 50 positives to 1 death per 700 positives

[top4718 838]

10 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Nope - not heard that since the 9/11 thread 😎

 

I don't agree with jabbing anyone without consent and have stated that previously.

 

Is Midazolam a vaccine? What is it used for?

It's a sedative that has been allegedly used to "finish off" the elderly in care homes to ramp up the Covid death stats, Canada allegedly used morphine for the same reason, if this is found to be true it blows the whole scam wide open, a smoking gun.

7 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

If as you imply "died within 28 days of a positive test" massively exceeds deaths caused by covid how is it that the vaccines have massively reduced deaths within 28 days of a positive test?  It has gone from 1 death per 50 positives to 1 death per 700 positives

Vaccines have reduced deaths in the vulnerable, the only people that needed it but if its proved that the excess deaths were fabricated anyway its done nothing (which I strongly suspect) Israel is the place go to place for all things vaccine related and signs from there are not positive in any way!!

Edited August 4, 2021 by top4718

[Longcol 600]

2 minutes ago, top4718 said:

Someone admitted to a hospital with a very serious life threatening illness who then contracts Covid in the hospital is not and never will be a Covid death, they'll be added to the stats though, total sham.

 

No - the ONS stats only include covid if it is recorded on the death certificate as an underlying cause of death / contributing to the death.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/whetherthosewhohavediedfromacaraccidentwithcovid19willbecountedinonsstatistics?:uri=aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/whetherthosewhohavediedfromacaraccidentwithcovid19willbecountedinonsstatistics

 

"The doctor or coroner certifying a death can record more than one health condition or event on the form. The medical certificate of cause of death has two parts, Part 1 contains the sequence of health conditions or events leading directly to death, while Part 2 can contain other health conditions that contributed to the death but were not part of the direct sequence. For statistical purposes one of the health conditions on the certificate is chosen as the 'underlying cause of death'. The underlying cause of death is defined as the health condition or event that started the train of events leading to death and is worked out according to rules from the World Health Organisation (WHO). COVID-19 is the underlying cause of death in around 92% of deaths where it was mentioned on the death certificate."

[Carbuncle 0]

4 minutes ago, top4718 said:

Vaccines have reduced deaths in the vulnerable, the only people that needed it but if its proved that the excess deaths were fabricated anyway its done nothing (which I strongly suspect) Israel is the place go to place for all things vaccine related and signs form there are not positive in any way?

My bold. In a world in which anything can be fabricated it is impossible to know anything of a global nature. Your fabrication of deaths would need to be going on 'Worldwide'. Of course in this fabricated universe 'Worldwide' is probably a department of government.

 

There is no need to go to Israel for matters vaccine related, there is good evidence here in the UK. The vaccine has proved extremely effective in the UK.

[Longcol 600]

11 minutes ago, top4718 said:

It's a sedative that has been allegedly used to "finish off" the elderly in care homes to ramp up the Covid death stats, Canada allegedly used morphine for the same reason, if this is found to be true it blows the whole scam wide open, a smoking gun.

 

Links to these allegations please.

 

Ps - both my mother and father-in-law have died of cancer in care homes. Morphine was used to ease their pain.

Edited August 4, 2021 by Longcol

[Carbuncle 0]

9 minutes ago, Longcol said:

No - the ONS stats only include covid if it is recorded on the death certificate as an underlying cause of death / contributing to the death.

(According to the link you have posted) there are two streams of death data. The ONS data uses death certificates and is about 20 000 higher than the Public Health England data which is done purely on deaths within 28 days of a positive PCR test. Or have I misunderstood?

[Longcol 600]

2 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

(According to the link you have posted) there are two streams of death data. The ONS data uses death certificates and is about 20 000 higher than the Public Health England data which is done purely on deaths within 28 days of a positive PCR test. Or have I misunderstood?

Correct  - ONS stats taken from the death certificate show a higher number than the PHE "28 day" figure.

Edited August 4, 2021 by Longcol

[Carbuncle 0]

 

I think morphine is also used to ease 'oxygen hunger' which would be a cause of distress in somebody struggling (and dying) with severe covid but who can not be put on a ventilator or who chooses not to be put on a ventilator.

Edited August 4, 2021 by Carbuncle

[Guest sibon]

1 hour ago, top4718 said:

the hundreds of thousands of people who are protesting throughout the world have obviously not seen anything too concerning with regards to this made up virus, 

You do know how many people there are in the world.

Don’t you?

[Carbuncle 0]

1 minute ago, sibon said:

You do know how many people there are in the world.

Don’t you?

Based on his own personal experience, he would probably guess in the hundreds of thousands. Let's not blow his mind by trying to communicate the true figure.