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41 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Its a reasonable suggestion, especially when you have the union side coming here with no apparent issue.  Same with cricketers. 

 

They have also just sent a load of athletes to Tokyo which is in a "state of emergency".

To be fair to the Australia and New Zealand Rugby league federations they have made the decision early to give the organisers plenty of time to cancel the tournament which is meaningless without the two best Rugby league playing nations.  Another factor other countries have both Australian and New Zealand born players representing them who also play in  Australia and New Zealand domestic Rugby League competitions which are more important than the Rugby League World Cup,  

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More studies on the asymptomatic myth, the WHO also stated (not particularly about Covid 19) but about SARS viruses in general but the muzzle wearers with their heads stuck in the Guardian will know better:
 

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN23915R?__twitter_impression=true

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32513410/

 

 

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671

 

 

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32 minutes ago, top4718 said:

More studies on the asymptomatic myth, the WHO also stated (not particularly about Covid 19) but about SARS viruses in general but the muzzle wearers with their heads stuck in the Guardian will know better:
 

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN23915R?__twitter_impression=true

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32513410/

 

 

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671

 

 

Armchair epidemiology at its best here.

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35 minutes ago, makapaka said:

Armchair epidemiology at its best here.

A year out of date armchair epidemiology.

 

I’m wondering whether Dr Tops has read the links.

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9 hours ago, sibon said:

A year out of date armchair epidemiology.

 

I’m wondering whether Dr Tops has read the links.

Given that none of them support the argument he’s making I don’t think so.

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For those who are interested in numbers. Here is a pretty thorough look at the latest data. More than anything, I think it shows how difficult it is to interpret the data we are collecting.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/23/scientists-cautious-over-whether-fall-in-uk-covid-cases-is-a-trend?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Let’s hope that the apparent fall in infection rate turns out to be sustained.

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29 minutes ago, sibon said:

For those who are interested in numbers. Here is a pretty thorough look at the latest data. More than anything, I think it shows how difficult it is to interpret the data we are collecting.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/23/scientists-cautious-over-whether-fall-in-uk-covid-cases-is-a-trend?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Let’s hope that the apparent fall in infection rate turns out to be sustained.

Hope so .

 

However number of tests have also dropped off a fair bit in the last couple of weeks as well.

 

People going on holiday? Medical staff being pinged by the "world beating" app?

 

Let's see if hospitalisations come down in the next week or so.

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19 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Hope so .

 

However number of tests have also dropped off a fair bit in the last couple of weeks as well.

 

People going on holiday? Medical staff being pinged by the "world beating" app?

 

Let's see if hospitalisations come down in the next week or so.

The difference between the ONS survey and the testing figures is interesting. The ONS data is gained by asking people to take tests at random.  I did one for them, a few months ago. The testing figures are from those who turn up at a testing centre, presumably because they have symptoms.

 

Maybe some people with symptoms are avoiding being tested. Or maybe they are just doing a LF test at home.

 

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11 minutes ago, sibon said:

The difference between the ONS survey and the testing figures is interesting. The ONS data is gained by asking people to take tests at random.  I did one for them, a few months ago. The testing figures are from those who turn up at a testing centre, presumably because they have symptoms.

 

Maybe some people with symptoms are avoiding being tested. Or maybe they are just doing a LF test at home.

 

The peak for the ONS survey will trail the daily case peak by a few weeks. It took me some thinking about but it stems from the fact that people can be PCR positive for quite some time.

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23 hours ago, sibon said:

A year out of date armchair epidemiology.

 

I’m wondering whether Dr Tops has read the links.

It doesn't matter what the dates on the articles are, virology/biology doesn't change monthly.

 

Children/teenagers are the most likely category to be asymptomatic, if they could pass the virus on whilst in that state there wouldn't be a school in the country left open (prior to the summer holidays) and teachers/staff would have gone down like flies, its a myth.

 

Its time to take a break from this thread as certain people have been that taken in by the medias project fear you could smack them in the face with irrefutable facts and they'd still deny as it makes them look foolish (when we look back on the era in a decade that will happen anyway).

 

For anyone wavering, this sums it up, you have virtually nothing to fear from Covid unless you are:

 

  • Over 80 years of age 
  • Seriously ill
  • A combination of the above
  • Clinically obese

For us not in these categories you'll feel crap for a few days and be right as rain in no time.

 

Au Revoir.

Oh sorry as Columbo used to say, just one more thing, this is a list of funeral numbers in various areas up to and including 2020, they must have been chucking all the excess dead in the sea:

 

https://uk-funerals.vercel.app/
 

Wonder what The Guardian (🙄) says 😂😂

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