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Boris Johnson’s policy poses ‘danger to the world’, as Whitty warns UK could face ‘trouble’

 

Covid news live: Latest updates as scientists say UK policy poses ‘danger to world’ | The Independent

 

Worrying, but it's been known for a while now that not keeping on top of infection rates leads to new variants. I suppose Johnson is keeping his fingers crossed that the new variant, if one does emerge, is not vaccine resistant. 

Needless to say if it is vaccine resistant, more lockdowns, and Britain will be known as 'plague island'.

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27 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Boris Johnson’s policy poses ‘danger to the world’, as Whitty warns UK could face ‘trouble’

 

Covid news live: Latest updates as scientists say UK policy poses ‘danger to world’ | The Independent

 

Worrying, but it's been known for a while now that not keeping on top of infection rates leads to new variants. I suppose Johnson is keeping his fingers crossed that the new variant, if one does emerge, is not vaccine resistant. 

Needless to say if it is vaccine resistant, more lockdowns, and Britain will be known as 'plague island'.

Despite the big bold scary headline you have up if a new vaccine resistant variant does spring up then it's more than likely to come from a country with low vaccination rates such as India and not our own. That is the real danger to the world.

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21 minutes ago, apelike said:

Despite the big bold scary headline you have up if a new vaccine resistant variant does spring up then it's more than likely to come from a country with low vaccination rates such as India and not our own. That is the real danger to the world.

Well ... we have lots of viral replication and hence lots of new mutations being generated and we have lots of selection pressure because there is so much immunity in the population. So I am going to say that the UK is going to be punching above its weight on this one.

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7 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

Well ... we have lots of viral replication and hence lots of new mutations being generated and we have lots of selection pressure because there is so much immunity in the population. So I am going to say that the UK going to be punching above its weight on this one.

We haven't had many variants though and the ones we do know about that have already posed a problem so far have largely originated from outside the UK, from countries with large populations and low vaccination rates. Countries like India, Pakistan, Brazil S.Africa and Mexico all have very large slums where even basic amenities like fresh water and sanitation are scarce. To me those are the places that need urgent help as that will benefit us all.

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1 hour ago, Mister M said:

Boris Johnson’s policy poses ‘danger to the world’, as Whitty warns UK could face ‘trouble’

 

Covid news live: Latest updates as scientists say UK policy poses ‘danger to world’ | The Independent

 

Worrying, but it's been known for a while now that not keeping on top of infection rates leads to new variants. I suppose Johnson is keeping his fingers crossed that the new variant, if one does emerge, is not vaccine resistant. 

Needless to say if it is vaccine resistant, more lockdowns, and Britain will be known as 'plague island'.

or 'Freedom Island'?

Edited by onewheeldave

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4 hours ago, butlers said:

Not that one should be cynical.

 

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/how-many-covid-19-vaccines-has-the-uk-donated/?

 

If it turns out we gave a chunk of foreign aid money to the covax scheme but then make the poorer countries BUY our spare vaccines.

 

 

To be fair Boris did say 100 million surplus vaccines within the next year. As with the EU the priority must be to provide them to its own people first. I just wonder if James Hitchings-Hales has had any vaccinations yet and if not when his turn comes would he be willing to donate his to another country first.

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Newsnight were reporting last night that the time to obtain results for (home) PCR tests has been rising sharply recently. I think this means that the moderation in growth rate for cases (?50% rise per week down to 30% per week?) might be largely due to pressure on testing capacity rather than reduction in growth rates for infections. Presumably this effect will increase as daily infections increase making the daily case data less useful.

 

The nature of the case data is also likely to change as schools break up for the Summer because a lot of secondary school kids were testing a couple of times a week using lateral flow tests. I think many schools break next week so conceivably there might be a non-meaningful drop in the case numbers related to this.

 

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6 hours ago, Mister M said:

Boris Johnson’s policy poses ‘danger to the world’, as Whitty warns UK could face ‘trouble’

 

Covid news live: Latest updates as scientists say UK policy poses ‘danger to world’ | The Independent

 

Worrying, but it's been known for a while now that not keeping on top of infection rates leads to new variants. I suppose Johnson is keeping his fingers crossed that the new variant, if one does emerge, is not vaccine resistant. 

Needless to say if it is vaccine resistant, more lockdowns, and Britain will be known as 'plague island'.

"Plague Island" thats a good one .

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9 hours ago, makapaka said:

3 of my mates, 1 family member and 2 of my neighbours got Covid in the last week - you'd have to be mad to have a vaccine ready and waiting for you and turn it down.

 

Cos you're gonna get Covid - no doubt about it.

Not necessarily

 

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1 hour ago, hackey lad said:

"Plague Island" thats a good one .

The term is already used to refer to the UK mainland on the Isle of Man.

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