onewheeldave   22 #6925 Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Longcol said: Hospitals have got to got to react to  what comes through the door.  Let's try to stop more covid cases coming through the door by getting vaccinated and wearing masks for mutual protection (indoors eg supermarkets or outdoors eg packed stadia) to stop more covid coming through the door Just supposing the covid never stops coming- that is possible, constant new variations, some immune to the vaccine. If that happens, would you want to keep the masks and lockdowns going for ever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #6926 Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Just supposing the covid never stops coming- that is possible, constant new variations, some immune to the vaccine. If that happens, would you want to keep the masks and lockdowns going for ever? What if we have a plague of frogs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #6927 Posted July 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, Thirsty Relic said: I wonder if.........  I've never suffered from Hay Fever or had any problem around grass, but twice recently I've cut a relative's lawn, and on both occasions I've had sneezing and coughing fits, and a runny nose. All symptoms go as soon as I am on my way home.  Surely in my later years I've not contracted Hay Fever? If so, could it be due to the lockdown, and will it disappear IF we stay out of lockdown and things get better? No-exact same happened to me pre Covid. It can come on in later years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #6928 Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Just supposing the covid never stops coming- that is possible, constant new variations, some immune to the vaccine. If that happens, would you want to keep the masks and lockdowns going for ever? Just supposing that we could carry on for a while yet, with face coverings and the current vaccines. Just supposing that those measures kept this thing under control. Just supposing that bought time to research a treatment for this terrible thing.  Would you still support attempts to undermine that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   604 #6929 Posted July 16, 2021 Just now, onewheeldave said: Just supposing the covid never stops coming- that is possible, constant new variations, some immune to the vaccine. If that happens, would you want to keep the masks and lockdowns going for ever? If that's what it takes to stop public health resources being overwhelmed am happy to wear a mask and socially distance were appropriate - like we've done since March last year.  And of course take new vaccines developed to manage new variations.  What do you propose - the human race being wiped out?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #6930 Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: What if we have a plague of frogs? Evading the question. 1 minute ago, sibon said: Just supposing that we could carry on for a while yet, with face coverings and the current vaccines. Just supposing that those measures kept this thing under control. Just supposing that bought time to research a treatment for this terrible thing.  Would you still support attempts to undermine that?  1 minute ago, sibon said: Just supposing that we could carry on for a while yet, with face coverings and the current vaccines. Just supposing that those measures kept this thing under control. Just supposing that bought time to research a treatment for this terrible thing.  Would you still support attempts to undermine that? Answer my question, then I'll tackle yours 8 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Just supposing the covid never stops coming- that is possible, constant new variations, some immune to the vaccine. If that happens, would you want to keep the masks and lockdowns going for ever?  1 minute ago, Longcol said: If that's what it takes to stop public health resources being overwhelmed am happy to wear a mask and socially distance were appropriate - like we've done since March last year.  And of course take new vaccines developed to manage new variations.    So you would keep the lockdowns and masking going for ever. I'm surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #6931 Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, onewheeldave said: Evading the question.  Answer my question, then I'll tackle yours  Ok.  No.  But we would need to live differently.  Your turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #6932 Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Longcol said:   What do you propose - the human race being wiped out?  The human race will not be wiped out by covid- it's a minor pandemic compared to, say, the American flu- which also didn't wipe out humanity, it killed between 5 and 10% I believe- covid is nowhere near that serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #6933 Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: 9 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: What if we have a plague of frogs? Evading the question. Your question was ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Thirsty Relic   215 #6934 Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Carbuncle said: What if we have a plague of frogs? If so, we'd carefully observe a proportion of them by inserting rfid tags/GPS or something into them so we can track them. Then we get some of them to live in a ward full of Covid patients to see if they are survive, thus showing they are immune to the latest variant of Covid. If they are, get our scientists to analyse them to see if we can extract antibodies that we can synthetically create more of to make us immune to Covid. Again, if this saves us, we'd create statues to the Frogs that saved us, and we'd all live happily ever after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #6935 Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, sibon said: Ok.  No.  But we would need to live differently.  Your turn. I'd remove the compulsion- let people choose if they want to mask or isolate or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #6936 Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Thirsty Relic said: If so, we'd carefully observe a proportion of them by inserting rfid tags/GPS or something into them so we can track them. Then we get some of them to live in a ward full of Covid patients to see if they are survive, thus showing they are immune to the latest variant of Covid. If they are, get our scientists to analyse them to see if we can extract antibodies that we can synthetically create more of to make us immune to Covid. Again, if this saves us, we'd create statues to the Frogs that saved us, and we'd all live happily ever after. Good stuff but it does not absolve you from providing part 2. of your previous story. Edited July 16, 2021 by Carbuncle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
