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1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

Assuming the double jabs were 2 or 3 weeks ago, I'm starting to  doubt the power of this vaccine. Read a similar report in Texas- several double jabbed got covid (all over 50) one died. And there was the full range of vaccines taken, some Pfizer, some AZ (indian) some Moderna.

Doubting the power is the 1st step. The second step is to look into to safety of it. 

When you do you will be shocked. 

This isn't a mass vaccination this is a culling of the weak and the gullible. 

Just my two penneth 👍

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To The_Daddy.

I'd very much appreciate it if you could direct me to any scientific 

evidence, that supports your scepticism as to the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines-thank you.

 

I've dug out this link for you-which I think you will find interesting.

 

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/covid19-vaccine-hesitancy-in-the-uk-the-oxford-coronavirus-explanations-attitudes-and-narrativ

 

My apology for the 404 error with the link. But I think you will be able to get to it through this link-fingers crossed. The link (Vac Hesitancy) is right at the bottom of the article.

 

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/science-blog/covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-uk

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7 hours ago, Longcol said:

Perhaps dependent on the initial viral load?

I don’t know -  not an expert - just find it odd.

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7 hours ago, makapaka said:

Funny set up with the symptoms /  jabs.

 

my uncle 62 -  double jabbed /  got Covid / not a bother on him. Lost his smell for a couple of days but coming back now.

 

my mate 41 - double jabbed / got Covid / high temperature can’t stop coughing - says he feels terrible.

The vaccines are 60-90% effective, or thereabouts. So a range of responses to infection are to be expected.

 

The main thing is that vaccination protects really well against serious illness. Which is consistent with the two cases you’ve quoted.

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London Mayor, Sadiq Khan, is maintaining thst it will be  compulsory to wear face coverings on the London transport network, (buses, trains, trains passing through London & the Underground), regardless of the Govt lifting restrictions on the 19th July.   Transport Minister, Grant Shaps is quite happy with this situation & will leave the decision on mandatory face coverings to individual transport operators & local authorities.

 

Radio Sheffield were running a story this morning saying that SCC are considering such an option. 

 

In the short-term, it seems to be a prudent move considering the opening up of more of society. 

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just out of interest - is there anybody on here that currently wears a mask on public transport or in shops that is going to stop doing so from Monday?

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6 minutes ago, makapaka said:

just out of interest - is there anybody on here that currently wears a mask on public transport or in shops that is going to stop doing so from Monday?

The latter, yes. I dont use public transport.

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1 minute ago, HeHasRisen said:

The latter, yes. I dont use public transport.

Would you wear one if you did use public transport?

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9 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

Assuming the double jabs were 2 or 3 weeks ago, I'm starting to  doubt the power of this vaccine. Read a similar report in Texas- several double jabbed got covid (all over 50) one died. And there was the full range of vaccines taken, some Pfizer, some AZ (indian) some Moderna.

Like most vaccines, not 100% effective, and where its done its job there's nothing to report, no story. Where it hasn't, there's a story, so it gets reported.

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4 minutes ago, makapaka said:

Would you wear one if you did use public transport?

If I didnt legally have to, no probably not.

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Just now, HeHasRisen said:

If I didnt legally have to, no probably not.

My original thought was that anyone who currently wears one would continue to do so.

 

I will in the circumstances described above.

 

 I understand some people have never worn them - I just assumed anyone else that thought it was necessary now would still think it necessary next Monday. 

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Just now, makapaka said:

My original thought was that anyone who currently wears one would continue to do so.

 

I will in the circumstances described above.

 

 I understand some people have never worn them - I just assumed anyone else that thought it was necessary now would still think it necessary next Monday. 

i am only doing it because I have to, I dont particularly enjoy having something wrapped around my face in this weather so off it will come, I dont particularly care who this upsets.

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