butlers   261 #5893 Posted June 13, 2021 Also what do you regard as a pandemic ? You have avoided any kind of answer for that question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   604 #5894 Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, top4718 said: What was it again I'm fielding about 6 petrified people here. Off shopping tomorrow with our lass - so petrified.............................................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718 Â Â 838 #5895 Posted June 13, 2021 Just now, Carbuncle said: Would you have sacrificed 1% of the population to avoid lockdowns? Its not 1% of the population its 1% of certain ages mostly with pre-existing conditions, the answer would probably be yes as the lockdowns will cause far more damage than covid ever will, that 1% will look paltry in terms of mental health, ruined businesses and livlihoods, suicides, cancers etc etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #5896 Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, top4718 said: You've believed too much of what the media has fed you which is after all the point.  Right its bed time, some of us have to be out and about tomorrow keeping the economy running.  Sleep well. Sleep well.  I’m hugely impressed by your ability to see through the global conspiracy. Keep it up,  I’m off too. I’m taking my sofa to the seaside tomorrow and I need my beauty sleep. Edited June 13, 2021 by sibon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #5897 Posted June 13, 2021 No, I really need a % otherwise we will not understand what is meant. What % of the most covid vulnerable would you sacrifice to avoid a lockdown? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #5898 Posted June 13, 2021 Death by suicide was down last year. Same in US and Sweden if you care to look. That's facts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #5899 Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, butlers said: Death by suicide was down last year. Same in US and Sweden if you care to look. That's facts Facts are over rated.  Its common sense you need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #5900 Posted June 13, 2021 Guys, if @top4718 is prepared to sacrifice a realistic number of people to avoid lockdown then he is making a 'reasonable' argument. It is this business where you get to avoid lockdown without paying a price that is BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #5901 Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) It feels counter intuative ,as so many people were strung out on stress and worry esp in early spring.(2020) N.Ireland despite of all the death and destruction and povety had the lowest suicide rates in the UK during the troubles Edited June 13, 2021 by butlers Added ( 2020) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #5902 Posted June 13, 2021 I assume there have been mental health issues but I have no handle on how big the problem is. Ditto: domestic violence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   604 #5903 Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Carbuncle said: I assume there have been mental health issues but I have no handle on how big the problem is. Ditto: domestic violence. There is no doubting that.  We have limited resources to deal with these - the NHS was stretched before it had covid to deal with.  Therefore it is a question of priorities for the NHS - presumably people needing intensive care has taken priority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #5904 Posted June 13, 2021 Wonder what the number is for deaths from the virus think they touted at least 0.3 %of the infected to as high as 0.7 but that was ages back. Small numbers ,huge consequences Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...