Longcol   601 #5641 Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, sibon said: I’m not sure that you’ll find a whole minutes worth of significance in that clip. The 9/11 Truthers used to post you tubes that went on for hours with the comment "watch this" and had zero minutes worth of significance.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #5642 Posted June 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Longcol said: The 9/11 Truthers used to post you tubes that went on for hours with the comment "watch this" and had zero minutes worth of significance.   I watched the clip. I’ve summarised the important points for you, below:  . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #5643 Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, makapaka said: If there were no excess deaths - how do you account for the number of deaths  in 2020 compared to previous years  https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020  what with them being 10-15% higher than any recent year?  just a coincidence that it coincided with a pandemic? What is very interesting from this is the fact that there were only 30k more deaths in this pandemic year than in 1996 despite a leap of 9m in population hmmmmmm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #5644 Posted June 10, 2021 Or against a declining death rate over a near quarter century when the variance year to year is in the order of 12,000 we suddenly get a year with 78,000 more registered deaths despite extra ordinary measures being in place.    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-how-mortality-rates-in-2020-compare-with-past-decades-and-centuries-12185275  More numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #5645 Posted June 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, butlers said: Or against a declining death rate over a near quarter century when the variance year to year is in the order of 12,000 we suddenly get a year with 78,000 more registered deaths despite extra ordinary measures being in place.    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-how-mortality-rates-in-2020-compare-with-past-decades-and-centuries-12185275  More numbers Knowing the ages would be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #5646 Posted June 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, butlers said: Or against a declining death rate over a near quarter century when the variance year to year is in the order of 12,000 we suddenly get a year with 78,000 more registered deaths despite extra ordinary measures being in place.  Exactly, even for an arch sceptic and without relying on dubious data we can agree something 'odd' happened in 2020. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #5647 Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, top4718 said: Knowing the ages would be interesting. I’m not sure why it matters how old they are. But, if you think old people are dispensable, then I guess you are entitled to that rather odd opinion.  You’ll find the numbers you requested here:  https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker  But they’ve probably been paid off by some intergalactic overlord or other.   4 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: Exactly, even for an arch sceptic and without relying on dubious data we can agree something 'odd' happened in 2020. We can.  I think that oddness is characterised in a huge loss of life across the planet. More acute in areas with leaders who failed to act swiftly. Edited June 10, 2021 by sibon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   601 #5648 Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: Exactly, even for an arch sceptic and without relying on dubious data we can agree something 'odd' happened in 2020. Even odder, it was outside the flu season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #5649 Posted June 11, 2021 9 hours ago, top4718 said: What is very interesting from this is the fact that there were only 30k more deaths in this pandemic year than in 1996 despite a leap of 9m in population hmmmmmm. So you can’t explain it then and have answered a question with a question.  Why did we suddenly got 80,000 more deaths between March and December last year if it wasn’t caused by Covid?  What do you think caused it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #5650 Posted June 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, makapaka said: So you can’t explain it then and have answered a question with a question.  Why did we suddenly got 80,000 more deaths between March and December last year if it wasn’t caused by Covid?  What do you think caused it? I didn't say Covid didn't exist I said its impact had been exaggerated, I asked if the age range of the dead was available, they are not indispensable but are much easier to target for protection whilst the majority carry on with normality, like we do with flu season. Once the majority of the vulnerable were vaccinated restrictions should have been lifted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #5651 Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, top4718 said: Incidentally he also published the graph that showed no excess deaths So why did you quote this fella who said there were no excess deaths - I assume you agree he’s talking rubbish then.  if it’s clear that there were excess deaths last year and that they were caused by Covid? 10 minutes ago, top4718 said: Once the majority of the vulnerable were vaccinated restrictions should have been lifted. This is a different argument altogether to whether or not there were excess deaths. Edited June 11, 2021 by makapaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #5652 Posted June 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, makapaka said: So why did you quote this fella who said there were no excess deaths - I assume you agree he’s talking rubbish then.  if it’s clear that there were excess deaths last year and that they were caused by Covid? This is a different argument altogether to whether or not there were excess deaths. I'd prefer to see the data he used again first (which I can't find) you have to be very careful what you believe, what caused the excess deaths in '96 do you think?  It is a different argument but its a question that begs to answered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...