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I don't think the general public  will stand for another lockdown unless hospital admissions and deaths are about to go through the roof again, the fact a fair few young people are catching the Indian version in a  few Northern towns is irrelevant  on its own unless it translates to hospital and deaths.

 

Oh and another lockdown would probably mark the end of Boris Johnson. So maybe it wouldnt be too bad.

 

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22 minutes ago, Thirsty Relic said:

The initial lockdown was said to be in order to buy time for a vaccine to be developed, especially for the 85's and over and those with serious pre-existing conditions - these together formed 95% of those in hospital or dying.  That has been done, and deaths and hospitalisations have dropped impressively as a result.  We can't stop people dying from Covid (the vaccines are far from 100% effective anyway), like we can't stop everybody dying of flu, or pneumonia, or cancer etc etc.

 

We have to resume our lives, and our economy, and the figures bear out that we are on track for the suggested date of 21st of June.  The cost of any further delays (so that the over 30's, or over 20's, or over 10's etc can be vaccinated) will be measured in job losses and lives lost to delaying operations for other illnesses. 

Totally Agree.

 

 

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20,000 people have flown in from India before the government decided to close the route down according to interview on GMTV. So I'm not holding my breath. But personally, I think it's time to take our chances post 21st June. I don't think people can take much more.

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2 hours ago, Mr Allen said:

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The government are making an announcement on the 14th of June apparently, but up to now they're saying the Vaccine works on the new Indian variant of Covid-19 so all should go according to plan to let us out of "Prison" the week after.

 

Thoughts? I normally think Johnson talks out of his trousers but I trust him on this one.

 

I hope you are right.  I agree with Anna, people have had enough and it’s time to live with it.  I feel sorry for all of those people who have had their operations cancelled and put back for months because of the virus.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, RollingJ said:

At what point are 'enough people vaccinated'? I would have thought, based on current reports, that we have very nearly reached that point, and as we really do need to - slowly, I agree, move back to normal life I personally cannot see why a gradual reduction in restrictions cannot take place now.

 

Your approach, with respect, would see a totally destroyed economy, massive unemployment - possibly worse than anything we have seen before (and people are already complaining loudly and correctly about the current figures), not to mention the physical and mental stress this is imposing on many.

 

You are possibly basing your opinion on the 'models' regularly trotted out by researchers, but based on the previous wildly inaccurate ones, I'm sorry, I won't.

The target is for all adults to be vaccinated is 31 July 2021.

It is now 17 May 2021.

Those few weeks between those dates are critically important particularly with the risks from Indian variant.

Why rush things, now of all times, when we are in the brink of getting over this and potentially setting us back again?  I don’t think people would stand for another lockdown if this goes wrong again. And rightly so.

I think some people haven’t quite understood that we are in a very different position to last year as we now have vaccines and we are getting close to the point of preventing exponential growth. But we are not there QUITE YET!

It not about being locked down  indefinitely!!

There will be minority who do not take up the opportunity for a vaccine but they are too few to stop the vaccine programme working effectively once it has been fully rolled out.

The UK came close to getting Covid under control last summer but blew with it with foreign holidays, eat out to help out etc. 

The fallout from that caused so much more damage to the economy with subsequent lockdowns last autumn and winter that anything I’ve suggested. I wouldn’t even be in the position of suggesting it in the first place if these mistakes hadn’t happened. We would probably be open now with minimal restrictions.

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2 hours ago, HeHasRisen said:

Oh and another lockdown would probably mark the end of Boris Johnson.

I dunno, the alternatives (slimy Gove, Hunt, Hancock and Raab) are somehow less appealing than Shagger Boris

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Apparently Jeremy Corbyn is still refusing to admit or deny as to having his Covid vaccination.

 

If you want to speculate on how the pandemic would have played out under Corbyn's Labour government, give that some thought.

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7 minutes ago, the_bloke said:

Apparently Jeremy Corbyn is still refusing to admit or deny as to having his Covid vaccination.

 

If you want to speculate on how the pandemic would have played out under Corbyn's Labour government, give that some thought.

His medical records and decisions aren't a matter for the public are they? 

 

He's not in charge of anything except his allotment. Who cares?

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1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

His medical records and decisions aren't a matter for the public are they? 

 

He's not in charge of anything except his allotment. Who cares?

Yes there was something a bit unseemly seeing a collection of Government ministers demanding to have their photos taken of them having the jab, some even taking their shirts off, which was completely unnecessary

 

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Just now, Mister M said:

 

Yes there was something a bit unseemly seeing a collection of Government ministers demanding to have their photos taken of them having the jab, some even taking their shirts off, which was completely unnecessary

 

Yeah, they get all mardy when ask who supplied the PPE the medical staff are wearing.

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1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

Yeah, they get all mardy when ask who supplied the PPE the medical staff are wearing.

:hihi:

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9 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

His medical records and decisions aren't a matter for the public are they? 

 

He's not in charge of anything except his allotment. Who cares?

Hmmm... :huh:


... I wonder if he's planning on cultivating some Jerusalem artichokes? :confused:

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