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3 minutes ago, sibon said:

But they aren’t. 
 

By not wearing a mask, they are showing that they are not wearing a mask.

 

This might be because they are exempt, but equally it might be because they are a bit of an arse. That’s specialist vocabulary for a non compliant sociopath, by the way.

 

In any case, anyone not wearing a mask in an enclosed space is likely to get grief from others. A lanyard would avoid that. The only rational conclusion is that those who won’t wear either a mask, or a lanyard are seeking confrontation. Just like those who make excuses for them.

You're entitled to your opinion no matter how discriminatory it is just be warned if you decide to give an exempt person grief then you are the one who could fall foul of the law. 

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2 minutes ago, sibon said:

 

 

In any case, anyone not wearing a mask in an enclosed space is likely to get grief from others. A lanyard would avoid that. The only rational conclusion is that those who won’t wear either a mask, or a lanyard are seeking confrontation. Just like those who make excuses for them.

This is nonsense :)

Anyone giving 'grief' to a disabled mask exempt person is a bully, pure and simple.

I personally have had zero 'grief' in enclosed spaces when not wearing a mask- I suspect that is because anyone attempting to give me grief would get plenty back, and it probably shows. In contrast, many other autistic people and disabled people, including some of my clients, have received 'grief', despite being mask exempt and wearing lanyards/badges. Again, this is compatible with the hypothesis that there are a lot of bullies, ignorant of the rules, who like to pick on vulnerable and disabled people.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

This is nonsense :)

Anyone giving 'grief' to a disabled mask exempt person is a bully, pure and simple.

I personally have had zero 'grief' in enclosed spaces when not wearing a mask- I suspect that is because anyone attempting to give me grief would get plenty back, and it probably shows. In contrast, many other autistic people and disabled people, including some of my clients, have received 'grief', despite being mask exempt and wearing lanyards/badges. Again, this is compatible with the hypothesis that there are a lot of bullies, ignorant of the rules, who like to pick on vulnerable and disabled people.

 

 

You still haven’t explained why it isn’t possible for people to wear lanyards. It would stop many problems before they start.

 

There is nothing remotely bullying about people wishing to be safe, by the way.

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5 minutes ago, sibon said:

You still haven’t explained why it isn’t possible for people to

wear lanyards. It would stop any problems before they start.

 

There is nothing remotely bullying about people wishing to be safe, by the way.

If it bothers you so much then its simple. You wear your mask, have the vaccine and then if it still bothers you then speak to your MP about getting the rules changed. 

In the meantime if you see somone not wearing a mask or lanyard then just assume they are exempt and move on with your day safe in the knowledge that your mask/vaccine is protecting you and by not giving a disabled person grief you have also probably helped them a lttle bit too. 

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27 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

If it bothers you so much then its simple. You wear your mask, have the vaccine and then if it still bothers you then speak to your MP about getting the rules changed. 

In the meantime if you see somone not wearing a mask or lanyard then just assume they are exempt and move on with your day safe in the knowledge that your mask/vaccine is protecting you and by not giving a disabled person grief you have also probably helped them a lttle bit too. 

I don’t think that I’ve suggested anywhere that I would give anyone “grief”. 
 

Please don’t project your insecurities onto me.

 

As for me wearing a mask, that protects others. I’m only looking for others to return the courtesy to keep me safer. There is nothing wrong with that.

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Just now, sibon said:

 

 

As for me wearing a mask, that protects others. I’m only looking for others to return the courtesy to keep me safer. There is nothing wrong with that.

Are you ok with mask exempt people not wearing a mask?

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12 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Are you ok with mask exempt people not wearing a mask?

Ok isn’t the word really. I’m accepting of it. And I’m happy to work round it. I’m not ok about it though, because it increases my risk of getting ill.

 

My suspicion is that many of the non mask wearers that I meet are not exempt. They are the ones who worry me most, because if they have such a cavalier attitude to mask wearing than that probably indicates that they are less likely to observe the other measures which are keeping us relatively safe.

 

Are you ok with non exempt people pretending to be exempt?

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17 minutes ago, sibon said:

I don’t think that I’ve suggested anywhere that I would give anyone “grief”. 
 

Please don’t project your insecurities onto me.

 

As for me wearing a mask, that protects others. I’m only looking for others to return the courtesy to keep me safer. There is nothing wrong with that.

My insecurities?  

That really made me 😂

Just now, sibon said:

Ok isn’t the word really. I’m accepting of it. And I’m happy to work round it. I’m not ok about it though, because it increases my risk of getting ill.

 

My suspicion is that many of the non mask wearers that I meet are not exempt. They are the ones who worry me most, because if they have such a cavalier attitude to mask wearing than that probably indicates that they are less likely to observe the other measures which are keeping us relatively safe.

 

Are you ok with non exempt people pretending to be exempt?

My bold. 

Then ask them. It would be far more productive than having a go at people on a local forum. 

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8 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

My insecurities?  

That really made me 😂

My bold. 

Then ask them. It would be far more productive than having a go at people on a local forum. 

I’m not having a go. I’m having a discussion. 
 

You should try it sometime.

 

As for asking them, I’d be much happier doing that if I knew they were not exempt. Which brings us back to lanyards.

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Just now, sibon said:

I’m not having a go. I’m having a discussion. 
 

You should try it sometime 

OK ill try some time 👍

You could try to accept that some people are exempt and these people do not owe you or anyone else an explanation. It may frustrate you, it may upset you or make you angry but in reality there really is nothing you can do about it. Just move on with your day. 

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6 hours ago, butlers said:

128,000 dead.

Yup media should put that on page 28 .

 

What - everyday 128000 dead should be on front page of news?

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, sibon said:

I’m not having a go. I’m having a discussion. 
 

You should try it sometime.

 

As for asking them, I’d be much happier doing that if I knew they were not exempt. Which brings us back to lanyards.

Maybe you should mind your own business and not make people wear lanyards because you want them to.

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1 hour ago, sibon said:

Ok isn’t the word really. I’m accepting of it. And I’m happy to work round it. I’m not ok about it though, because it increases my risk of getting ill.

 

My suspicion is that many of the non mask wearers that I meet are not exempt. 

 

 

 

Your suspicion that some [you've no evidence that it is 'many'] non-mask wearers are not exempt is, of course, totally innaplicable in any specific case you will encounter of a non-mask wearer, as the nature of hidden disability generally precludes being able to judge whether the person is disabled by looking at them. There have been several posters on this thread who seem unable to grasp this, and, for whatever reason, they seem to have the same urge as you to insist that the disabled must wear an identifying symbol e.g.

 

On 23/04/2021 at 20:12, Kidorry said:

The three youngish men certainly looked fit enough to me, and if they are exempt should they be wearing some badge to say so?

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