jane2008 15 #4117 Posted February 9, 2021 8 hours ago, gluedtopc said: Thanks. The letter arrived yesterday and it’s now booked for Saturday at the arena. Knew Borris wouldn’t let us down !! Thanks for everyone’s replies. Glad your wife is sorted Glued. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol 596 #4118 Posted February 9, 2021 Good to see they have started on the 65+ in Sheffield. Anybody has any form of reaction should report their symptoms through the Yellow Card system. MHRA(UK Gov)report Coronavirus Vaccine - summary of Yellow Card reporting Data included: 09/12/2020 to 24/01/2021 The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was evaluated in clinical trials involving more than 44,000 participants. The most frequent adverse reactions in these trials were pain at the injection site, fatigue, headache, myalgia (muscle pains), chills, arthralgia (joint pains), and fever; these were each reported in more than 1 in 10 people. These reactions were usually mild or moderate in intensity and resolved within a few days after vaccination. Adverse reactions were reported less frequently in older adults (65 years and older) than in younger people. The Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine was evaluated in clinical trials involving more than 23,000 participants. The most frequently reported adverse reactions in these trials were injectionsite tenderness, injection-site pain, headache, fatigue, myalgia, malaise, pyrexia (fever), chills, and arthralgia, and nausea; these were each reported in more than 1 in 10 people. The majority of adverse reactions were mild to moderate in severity and usually resolved within a few days after vaccination. Adverse reactions were generally milder and reported less frequently in older adults (65 years and older) than in younger people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid 194 #4119 Posted February 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: Good to see they have started on the 65+ in Sheffield. Anybody has any form of reaction should report their symptoms through the Yellow Card system. Is that why officially, reports of side effects are only 10%, because no one reports it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol 596 #4120 Posted February 9, 2021 45 minutes ago, El Cid said: Is that why officially, reports of side effects are only 10%, because no one reports it? There is no conspiracy here. The effects of "jabbing" people in the arm is well known. The 'drama' of school vaccinations is well documented. The Yellow Card system is helps counteract hearsay, but more importantly creates a database for future reference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid 194 #4121 Posted February 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: There is no conspiracy here. The effects of "jabbing" people in the arm is well known. The 'drama' of school vaccinations is well documented. The Yellow Card system is helps counteract hearsay, but more importantly creates a database for future reference Its better if people think that there is a low chance of side effects, because of the placebo effect. Quote In a clinical trial of 60 patients, led by researchers at Imperial College London and clinicians at Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust, 90 per cent of symptoms experienced by patients whilst taking statins were all present when they took placebo pills. I was told 10% from the Oxford vaccine, I believe its much more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike 10 #4122 Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, El Cid said: Is that why officially, reports of side effects are only 10%, because no one reports it? Maybe its only 10% because only 10% have hade side effects! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
catmiss 12 #4123 Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, El Cid said: Is that why officially, reports of side effects are only 10%, because no one reports it? Perhaps, a bit like the flu vaccine, we might expect to have some mild effects not worth reporting. I remember my kids being a bit off colour and fractious after vaccinations. I’m having mine in the morning and would only report anything other than mild illness Edited February 9, 2021 by catmiss Addition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol 596 #4124 Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) On 08/02/2021 at 23:14, El Cid said: It was actually a friend that read it, I Googled, cannot find anything. 1 hour ago, El Cid said: Its better if people think that there is a low chance of side effects, because of the placebo effect. I was told 10% from the Oxford vaccine, I believe its much more. On 08/02/2021 at 21:40, El Cid said: I have read that the worse your reaction, means that you already have anti-bodies and it fights the vaccine, meaning that you have already had COVID. How bad that reaction would be, I dont know, if true. Right, are there any sources yet? The UK population has taken the vaccination business very seriously, most have made decisions based on information provided by a variety of sources. Most are concerned by the possibility of side effects and would want to know more. Edited February 9, 2021 by Annie Bynnol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
enntee 10 #4125 Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said: ..... ..... Most are concerned by the possibility of side effects and would want to know more. No. I believe that "most" of the population are happy that there are vaccines and are looking forward to getting one. Edited February 10, 2021 by enntee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid 194 #4126 Posted February 10, 2021 11 hours ago, apelike said: Maybe its only 10% because only 10% have hade side effects! Chills 51%, aches 60%, joint pain 30%, headache 68%, fever 18%, fatigue 70% https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/covid-19-vaccines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol 596 #4127 Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, El Cid said: Chills 51%, aches 60%, joint pain 30%, headache 68%, fever 18%, fatigue 70% https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/covid-19-vaccines The source is The Vaccine Knowledge Project whose aim "...(is) to be a source of independent information about vaccines and infectious diseases." Produced by managed by the Oxford Vaccine Group. To put your numbers into context, 90% of the sample was under 65 with the over 65s reporting less frequent and milder reactions. Your quote is preceded in the same paragraph by: " Expected side effects Because vaccines work by triggering your immune system to produce a reaction, you can however have side effects after you receive the vaccine that feel similar to having a real infection. Things like having a fever, or feeling achey, or getting a headache (often described as “flu-like” symptoms) are common after receiving many vaccines and this is the same for the approved COVID-19 vaccines. Having these symptoms means that your immune system is working as it should be. Usually, these symptoms last a much shorter time than a real infection would (most are gone within the first 1-2 days). The common side effects associated with the currently approved vaccines are below. These symptoms generally last 1-2 days following vaccination". The figures for the Pfizer jab are different. It is very important that we refer to the full report (28 January 2021) which adds more detail. "The majority of adverse reactions were mild to moderate in severity and usually resolved within a few days of vaccination. By day 7 the incidence of subjects with at least one local or systemic reaction was 4% and 13% respectively. When compared with the first dose, adverse reactions reported after the second dose were milder and reported less frequently. Adverse reactions were generally milder and reported less frequently in older adults (≥65 years old)." Now more of us can be assured that the jab is the new normal as are the aches and pains and as "enntee" says "... that "most" of the population are happy that there are vaccines and are looking forward to getting one." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid 194 #4128 Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: The source is The Vaccine Knowledge Project whose aim "...(is) to be a source of independent information about vaccines and infectious diseases." Produced by managed by the Oxford Vaccine Group. To put your numbers into context, 90% of the sample was under 65 with the over 65s reporting less frequent and milder reactions. It is quite posible that the elderly are less likely to have side effects. My work colleague and some of her friends had unpleasant side effects, none of them were elderly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...