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Has the problem of the app triggering through walls been fixed?  I've heard of many people who've been contacted by track and trace because their neighbour has tested positive/been a contact (and they live in terraced houses)...

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53 minutes ago, Becky B said:

Has the problem of the app triggering through walls been fixed?  I've heard of many people who've been contacted by track and trace because their neighbour has tested positive/been a contact (and they live in terraced houses)...

Wi-fi can go through walls, but I understand bluetooth not so much, perhaps if you both go out of the front door at the same time, to go shopping or walk the dog.

Then Chineese whispers or fake news turns it into bluetooth through solid walls.

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12 hours ago, melthebell said:

Got a letter for one, tbh i dont want to go, im quite lucky that flu never hits me that bad and i dont have any underlying health issues, personally speaking i'd rather they spent the time and money on getting the covid jab out there rather than faff around with me who never goes to the drs and never ever gets bedridden with flu

 

It's not just about you though Mel, It's also that you might spread it about if you do get it, even if it is mild for you. Look at covid for that example.

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There's endless talk about Transmission.

The ideal goal for vaccine makers  is to make Sterilising Vaccines. 

However ,if the current Cov-19 vaccines do not have sterilising properties (that's not proven yet) all is not lost.

 

 

 

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-few-vaccines-prevent-infection-heres-why-thats-not-a-problem-152204

 

Edited by petemcewan

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Can someone tell me what the position is after both doses of the vaccine (and the 2 week build up of antibodies? )

 

Can you return to work? 

Can you mix with other people who have also had the jab?

Can you mix with other people who haven't had the jab like grandchildren?

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Anna B said:

Can someone tell me what the position is after both doses of the vaccine (and the 2 week build up of antibodies? )

 

Can you return to work? 

Can you mix with other people who have also had the jab?

Can you mix with other people who haven't had the jab like grandchildren?

 

 

 

Not at the moment

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10 hours ago, Dardandec said:

It's not just about you though Mel, It's also that you might spread it about if you do get it, even if it is mild for you. Look at covid for that example.

Not completely true, only over 50s get the vaccination (and people with underlying health issues) thats to protect the person vaccinated not to stop it running wild.

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5 minutes ago, enntee said:

Not that it changes your point, but anyone can get a flu vaccination if they choose to pay for it, privately.

Apparently theyve been trying to stop people jumping the queue trying to pay for covid jabs too, money talks if you have plenty

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1 hour ago, melthebell said:

Not completely true, only over 50s get the vaccination (and people with underlying health issues) thats to protect the person vaccinated not to stop it running wild.

Splitting hairs on the subject doesn't stop it being selfish and anti social to think only of yourself and ignore the rest of the human race.

Many people are dying at this moment because of that attitude.

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15 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Splitting hairs on the subject doesn't stop it being selfish and anti social to think only of yourself and ignore the rest of the human race.

Many people are dying at this moment because of that attitude.

so thinking that i dont need it and think the NHS should be concentrating on others, and covid is selfish? hmm strange attitude, a lot of money gets wasted in the NHS, blanket coverage is one of them, like i said before flu vaccination has NOTHING to do with stopping the spread, only over 50s are vaccinated, or those that have health issues because they are generally the main victims that can die, the main population dont get vaccinated, thats not stopping the spread.

Edited by melthebell

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As we are talking here about the Flu virus, and not Covid (although there are some parallels), the NHS recognised that flu exists and keeps mutating, but severe outcomes (death etc) are vastly more predominant in the very old or very medically vulnerable.  As such, those groups are offered a vaccine shot in winter (as that is when it is more prevalent and deadly). 

 

I keep being offered it and rejecting such offers, as the vaccine doesn't stop me transmitting it to others, just aims to protect the taker.  I don't think I need it, so don't take it.  This has no effect on others.

 

According to Van Tam, the Covid vaccine protects the individual, but also does not stop them passing it on.  Hence the advice even after the 2 jabs to keep indoors, keep safe and protect others.

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