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24 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

But there are "pinch points" at many outdoor places - car parks, ticket machines, narrow paths, gates, ice cream vans.

 

I went for a walk on the beach on Saturday which was quiet and people well spaced.  Except at all the above points where they milled like sheep.

I think the chance of contracting it in a few short minutes outdoors is absolutely minimal.

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Hoppers on Eccy rd is a real danger zone, long ques, funnelling people passing in to a narrow pavement, its very expensive as well

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16 hours ago, enntee said:

I am aware that there are those that disagree quite strongly, but if there is to be an enforceable regulation for face masks, there should be no exemptions.

Obviously you have no breathing problem issues, etc

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1 hour ago, Brooker11 said:

I think the chance of contracting it in a few short minutes outdoors is absolutely minimal.

Yes I believe so. Even with the pinch points people won't be there anywhere near long enough to make a big risk. 

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Now this is what you call a lockdown!

 

All people forbidden to leave their homes after 05.00 this Thursday...for 11 days! Very few exemptions, apparently.

Not even supermarkets will be open - folk will have to rely on deliveries.

 

This is the way it is in Lebanon.

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4 minutes ago, RiffRaff said:

Now this is what you call a lockdown!

 

All people forbidden to leave their homes after 05.00 this Thursday...for 11 days! Very few exemptions, apparently.

Not even supermarkets will be open - folk will have to rely on deliveries.

 

This is the way it is in Lebanon.

Is this a joke? There is no way the supermarkets have capacity to deliver food. You'd be lucky to even get a slot in the next 2 weeks if you tried now! And panic buyers will strip the shelves bare if they have announced this.

 

I hope you mean this is in Lebanon, not that we are copying something that was done in Lebanon?!

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59 minutes ago, gamezone07 said:

Obviously you have no breathing problem issues, etc

That is irrelevant.
The current regulations are unenforceable and should be changed if they are to be effective.

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1 hour ago, gamezone07 said:

Obviously you have no breathing problem issues, etc

Not as bad as having no breath at all....

8 minutes ago, nightrider said:

Is this a joke? There is no way the supermarkets have capacity to deliver food. You'd be lucky to even get a slot in the next 2 weeks if you tried now! And panic buyers will strip the shelves bare if they have announced this.

 

I hope you mean this is in Lebanon, not that we are copying something that was done in Lebanon?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-55631398

 

and yes, that's why I wrote "This is the way it is in Lebanon".

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15 hours ago, Jim Hardie said:

If there are exemptions, the policy is not worth a light. If you can’t wear one, get your shopping delivered.

Of course it is 'worth a light'- look around you- most are wearing a mask which means less transmission. 

 

Your assumption that all mask exempt people have access to food delivery is very naive.

9 hours ago, Becky B said:

Did he ride there though? 7 miles isn't far, on a bike... 

The risk of transmission outdoors is much lower than where people are congregating indoors. 

 

 

8 hours ago, redruby said:

 

I don’t believe there is any limit on how far people can travel during outdoor exercise and if they are genuinely exercising I can’t see much point in there being a limit on time or distance as the risks are tiny when done within guidelines.  This government has done a lot wrong in the pandemic but one thing they have got right is recognising the importance of exercise.

 

5 hours ago, nightrider said:

 

 

The risk of transmission outside is extremely low. I doubt that is what is driving the pandemic. No point focussing on people going for a walk in the countryside - makes a nice headline, but won't stop the virus spreading which is mostly caused by indoors settings. 

Good to see that more people are aware of the extremely low transmission in outdoor spaces, and, the value of exercise. Being fit and healthy is one of the best defences against this, and other viruses

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52 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Of course it is 'worth a light'- look around you- most are wearing a mask which means less transmission. 

 

Responsible people were doing that already.
If “I’m exempt” is all that has to be said, the policy is window dressing by the supermarkets. Nobody should be allowed in without a mask.

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9 hours ago, redruby said:

Ah, but did Johnson really need to visit Bristol in person?  I suppose the visit falls under ‘work related’ travel so is not breaking any rules but there’s a lot of talk about acting in the spirit of lockdown and, to me anyway, that journey and meeting people in person in Bristol was not essential.

I don’t believe there is any limit on how far people can travel during outdoor exercise and if they are genuinely exercising I can’t see much point in there being a limit on time or distance as the risks are tiny when done within guidelines.  This government has done a lot wrong in the pandemic but one thing they have got right is recognising the importance of exercise.

Agreed!  I'm quite passionate about this - it's a bit of a hobby horse of mine anyway, outside of the pandemic situation.

We'll be having a deconditioning pandemic - predicted in March, and it is having an effect on the elderly population.

Also agree people are getting blase about the lockdown.  And I feel like a lot of people just don't get social distancing.

Though I did read an interesting piece in the BMJ about using "lockdown fatigue" as a term, as it diverts blame onto the individual rather than the government for overall handling of the situation, which gave me pause for thought... https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/07/pandemic-fatigue-how-adherence-to-covid-19-regulations-has-been-misrepresented-and-why-it-matters/?fbclid=IwAR3GfLJMXC5_Wxmcy15FOq1AHFlyOquy0TRtpEBqmvwryEabS-nVF0LZ6Xo

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10 hours ago, redruby said:

Ah, but did Johnson really need to visit Bristol in person?  I suppose the visit falls under ‘work related’ travel so is not breaking any rules but there’s a lot of talk about acting in the spirit of lockdown and, to me anyway, that journey and meeting people in person in Bristol was not essential.

I don’t believe there is any limit on how far people can travel during outdoor exercise and if they are genuinely exercising I can’t see much point in there being a limit on time or distance as the risks are tiny when done within guidelines.  This government has done a lot wrong in the pandemic but one thing they have got right is recognising the importance of exercise.

I expect the British Prime Minister to carry on doing what is expected of a Prime Minister in normal times during the pandemic.  I don't have a problem whoever is Prime Minister carrying on doing duties and making journeys around the UK which someone who is not Prime Minister would be judged as non essential.  To be quite frank the media, political opponents and the social media users  are an embarrassment when they target Boris Johnson for criticism for carrying out day to day duties.

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