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1 hour ago, PRESLEY said:

Can't believe compulsary mask wearing wasn't introduced from the start, could well have saved some lives,  :huh:

thats what should have happend  and maybe it would have had some credibility, now three weeks later none!

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1 hour ago, PRESLEY said:

Can't believe compulsary mask wearing wasn't introduced from the start, could well have saved some lives,  :huh:

It was not introduced from the start as it was not deemed necessary by the WHO guidance and even now it is very debatable if it would or will make any difference to the infection rates or if wearing them will actually save lives. Wearing one is more of a comfy blanket than positive action on control but jobs and economics need to get back to some form of normality or it all collapses. Wearing a covering or a mask just helps people feel safer whether they are though is another matter.

 

Confusion is still all part of it.

 

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/who-updates-guidance-on-masks-heres-what-to-know-now/

Edited by apelike

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1 hour ago, PRESLEY said:

Can't believe compulsary mask wearing wasn't introduced from the start, could well have saved some lives,  :huh:

At the start we were told to stay at home and not go near anyone else at all  if possible. 
A bit later down the line and no doubt people would’ve have thought there was no need to stay socially distanced if they were wearing one.

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It's not enforceable, police won't and can't patrol everyshop for none maskwearers. Only if called cos of abuse or violence.

Shopworkers wont  intervene as it's seen as law enforcement and could cause abuse and/or violence.

then there's the confusion over what public venues you should and shouldn't wear them in

 

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32 minutes ago, melthebell said:

Shopworkers wont  intervene as it's seen as law enforcement and could cause abuse and/or violence.

Not to mention that shops have a financial vested interest, so will likely turn a blind eye (if it means a sale).

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10 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Not to mention that shops have a financial vested interest, so will likely turn a blind eye (if it means a sale).

not all of them are, they have interviewed a shop owner from leeds on the radio and he is turning people away if they dont wear a mask

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8 minutes ago, andyofborg said:

not all of them are, they have interviewed a shop owner from leeds on the radio and he is turning people away if they dont wear a mask

more fool him then as no shop will get my money if i get turned away.

 

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15 minutes ago, casualbystander said:

more fool him then as no shop will get my money if i get turned away.

 

They won’t get mine if they allow people in with uncovered noses and mouths.

 

I guess they will need to decide which person’s money they want.

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The bloke,

 

With respect. It explains itself. The medical records are available-giving the required data that is necessary

for conducting the trial.Epidemiologist and researchers are well aware of "Historical Control" procedures.

Adopting the procedure gets them out of unethical problems, that obtain  in placebo conducted trials.

 

"A control group that is chosen from a group of patients who were observed at some time in the past or for whom data are available through records. Historical controls are used for comparison with subjects being treated or assessed concurrently"

Segen's Medical Dictionary. © 2012 Farlex, Inc. All rights reserved.
 
 
Historical Control Groups are not new, off the wall,quack way of proceeding.

historical control

Epidemiology A control group that is chosen from a group of patients who were observed at some time in the past or for whom data are available through records; HCs are used for comparison with subjects being treated concurrently. See Control."

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1 hour ago, nikki-red said:

At the start we were told to stay at home and not go near anyone else at all  if possible. 
A bit later down the line and no doubt people would’ve have thought there was no need to stay socially distanced if they were wearing one.

Good points made, I had one fool in the Asda reached over my shoulder to get to an item, when I looked around to see what was goin off, I spotted he had a  mask on, as so did I,  obviously he was  thinking he was no risk to me or himself, so yes I agree with you completly.

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We were all told to wear face mask in shops,but today went into Pound store,and i had my mask on,but the people who work in the shop did not have any mask at all on,why? are there not wearing them when we have to,seems very odd

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3 minutes ago, 1295galaxy said:

We were all told to wear face mask in shops,but today went into Pound store,and i had my mask on,but the people who work in the shop did not have any mask at all on,why? are there not wearing them when we have to,seems very odd

Did you ask the staff or management whilst you were there? 

 

Were they working behind screens or had face shields or other protection?

Edited by ECCOnoob

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