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9 minutes ago, Mister M said:

That is very sinister....I wonder what it is about Dominic Cummings that attracts someone to do that???

think you're being disingenuous, but for the benefit of anyone who isn't sure - Brexit.

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1 minute ago, Mister M said:

 

 

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Awkward :nod:

7 miles now looks like the limit.

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3 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

7 miles now looks like the limit.

Just like driving round Barnard Castle is a legitimate way to test one's eyesight?

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22 hours ago, redruby said:

How to make the locker stricter? Do garden centres really need to be open? Do takeaways really need to be open? These are Just a couple of examples, I’m sure there are many more. From what I’ve seen these are just encouraging people to go out and come into contact with others much more closely and for longer than they would taking exercise.  

Of course that’s tough for businesses and economy. But the trouble is that while ever we carry on to trying to compromise and tread a middle ground, the less effective the lockdown will be. So the lockdown goes on longer, the economy suffers more in the longer term.

The way to make the lockdown stricter is by stopping any click and collect options in any shops not selling food. Schools should be open to only keyworkers children like the first lockdown and masks to be worn in public places as well as outdoors.

There are far too many cars still out and about on the roads because some shops have managed to get round the loophole of click and collect and remain open.

I'm a retail worker for a huge company with over 400 staff in the building. Still working click and collect orders for items which are not classed as essential and its difficult to keep away from eachother when doing these orders when it is always so very busy. The company want all the staff to work and not be furloughed again.

If Boris wants to tighten things again. Stop click and collect for shops that don't sell food so that workers are kept safe and away from other people to ease the burden on the NHS.

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, tatybaby said:

The way to make the lockdown stricter is by stopping any click and collect options in any shops not selling food. Schools should be open to only keyworkers children like the first lockdown and masks to be worn in public places as well as outdoors.

There are far too many cars still out and about on the roads because some shops have managed to get round the loophole of click and collect and remain open.

I'm a retail worker for a huge company with over 400 staff in the building. Still working click and collect orders for items which are not classed as essential and its difficult to keep away from eachother when doing these orders when it is always so very busy. The company want all the staff to work and not be furloughed again.

If Boris wants to tighten things again. Stop click and collect for shops that don't sell food so that workers are kept safe and away from other people to ease the burden on the NHS.

 

 

 

My bold. 

 

There was a Headteacher on the tv tonight who said that the list of essential / key workers had become so large that more & more children were now attending school under this rule.  She even said that children were being being dropped of at school by parents who were actually working from home or off work at home after being furloughed. 

 

Attitudes seemed to have changed from earlier in the pandemic, when many parents were refusing to send their children to school for fear of the children catching the virus & demanding schools were closed.  Perhaps home schooling fatigue has set in for many? 

 

On the face covering aspect, Morrisons & Sainsbury's are now introducing a mandatory requirement to wear face coverings in their store with no exceptions, except for those with medical exemptions.  

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55618408

 

"Sainsbury's also said it would refuse entry to those not wearing a mask or who were shopping in groups." 

 

One wonders how the medical exemption will be determined & if the mandatory face coverings will also be required by their staff? 

 

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10 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

My bold. 

 

There was a Headteacher on the tv tonight who said that the list of essential / key workers had become so large that more & more children were now attending school under this rule.  She even said that children were being being dropped of at school by parents who were actually working from home or off work at home after being furloughed. 

 

On the face covering aspect, Morrisons & Sainsbury's are now introducing a mandatory requirement to wear face coverings in their store with no exceptions, except for those with medical exemptions.  

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55618408

 

"Sainsbury's also said it would refuse entry to those not wearing a mask or who were shopping in groups." 

 

One wonders how the medical exemption will be determined & if the mandatory face coverings will also be required by their staff? 

 

I agree with what you say about the schools and keywokers. The list is now so cast that people are getting confused.

I have a junior school at the bottom of my road and its still as busy as ever since the start of this 2nd national lockdown.

I understand that there are some parents that are still working from home but that does not mean they are classed as a keyworker which enables them to use the school as a babysitting service which is what the government wants to happen.

They keyworker list needs to be only NHS. GP surgery workers, Grocery shop workers. Care workers etc. 

Homeware shops selling soft furnishings and furniture should be closed to the public and click and collect.

With still too many people out and about going into work this pandemic will not ease until there are less people moving around.

 

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25 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

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One wonders how the medical exemption will be determined & if the mandatory face coverings will also be required by their staff? 

 

I am aware that there are those that disagree quite strongly, but if there is to be an enforceable regulation for face masks, there should be no exemptions.

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1 minute ago, enntee said:

I am aware that there are those that disagree quite strongly, but if there is to be an enforceable regulation for face masks, there should be no exemptions.

I think in Thailand, there's been a system where there are cameras using facial recognition in bigger shops and if you aren't wearing a mask, the doors don't open. 

 

Honestly, it's a bit of cloth round your face, grow up an wear a mask.

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1 hour ago, tatybaby said:

I agree with what you say about the schools and keywokers. The list is now so cast that people are getting confused.

I have a junior school at the bottom of my road and its still as busy as ever since the start of this 2nd national lockdown.

I understand that there are some parents that are still working from home but that does not mean they are classed as a keyworker which enables them to use the school as a babysitting service which is what the government wants to happen.

They keyworker list needs to be only NHS. GP surgery workers, Grocery shop workers. Care workers etc

Homeware shops selling soft furnishings and furniture should be closed to the public and click and collect.

With still too many people out and about going into work this pandemic will not ease until there are less people moving around.

 

Etc who? The list is huge tbh. Food and drinks manufacturing and distribution, packaging manufacturing and distribution, wholesalers, cleaning contractors, fuel production and distribution, public utilities operation and maintenance, national infrastructure operations and maintenance, public transport ops and maintenance.......etc.

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The only workers who have been added to the "key workers" list are Brexit transition workers.

 

As for the seemingly high traffic volume compared to the March lock down will be down to workers who can't work from home. I have to travel too and from work and I use my car.

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10 minutes ago, Dardandec said:

As for the seemingly high traffic volume compared to the March lock down will be down to workers who can't work from home.

Presumably they are the same people who couldn't work from home last time, so that doesn't explain why the volume of cars has shot up.  Nobody seems to be able to logically explain it, unless it is simply down to people ignoring the rules. 

 

If this is so, perhaps the police are right to stop people in cars and ask where they are going and why? Perhaps it would be easier for them to check number plate recognition for people at beauty spots etc far away from registered base and then ask them.  That way there is a far greater chance of finding wrongdoers and fine them.

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