Delbow #3565 Posted January 6 They know the British public too well. "You promised us a full independent enquiry!" "Look, some Muslims. Some of them are Bulgarian" "What?! Where?!" 🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat #3566 Posted January 6 5 hours ago, Mister M said: They may try, but there will be an almighty ****storm if they dare. 10 years minimum, if at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B #3567 Posted January 6 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mister M said: Boris Johnson and various Ministers in the last year have made reference to the fact that there will be a full independent public inquiry into the handling of the pandemic. Surely as a country we are entitled to that at the very least...? Yes, I believe we are. But what we don't want is an expensive whitewash which is what tends to happen. More and more people are getting really angry at being fobbed off and lied to. Hope the government takes heed. 6 hours ago, Delbow said: I'm sure they will limit the terms of reference to suit them. Or just drop it all together. See above. 6 hours ago, Mister M said: They may try, but there will be an almighty ****storm if they dare. Indeed.... Edited January 6 by Anna B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike #3568 Posted January 6 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mister M said: Boris Johnson and various Ministers in the last year have made reference to the fact that there will be a full independent public inquiry into the handling of the pandemic. Surely as a country we are entitled to that at the very least...? No, as I have already pointed out in the past on here. What was stated is that they will hold an official inquiry into the coronavirus handling which is not the same as holding a full independent public enquiry. The latter has been asked for by various bodies but has not been agreed to as the PM or Government minister are the only ones who can authorise one. A full public enquiry if held will be very expensive and also take years to come to any conclusion, think the Blair and the Chilcot one. Announced by Brown in 2009 with its publication and conclusion only published in 2016. not forgetting also that we are still in the middle of this pandemic. Some info: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/public-inquiries Edited January 6 by apelike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat #3569 Posted January 7 7 hours ago, Arnold_Lane said: It’s the Mirror vox-popping at an airport not the Washington Post reporting on Watergate. I’m not saying people shouldn’t be tested on entry but, to me, it does seem the wrong way round. I take issue with the apparent dramatic denouncements of the few passengers actually quoted (who seem to be British citizens or live here anyway). If they think they are positive they wouldn’t and shouldn’t have flown in to begin with. Can the UK government unilaterally say to the US, for example, no-one can get on a UK bound plane without first having a Covid test? That seems the sensible thing to do; test people before they fly. Not after they’ve arrived. The article concludes: Officials are considering banning UK residents from returning home without a clean Covid-19 test, the Mirror understands. The Government is finalising plans to tighten restrictions, which are expected to include pre-flight tests for anyone entering the country. You know who has crowds at the cricket? Australia. You get off a plane in Australia, taken to a hotel under the supervision of armed police and put in hotel for 14 days in quarantined. If you leave the hotel within those 14 days, you go to prison for up to 2 years. Heathrow has empty hand santatising stations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M #3570 Posted January 7 Words just fail me: Elderly Britons are REFUSING Pfizer's vaccine because they'd rather 'wait for the English one' | Daily Mail Online Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus #3571 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Mister M said: Words just fail me: Elderly Britons are REFUSING Pfizer's vaccine because they'd rather 'wait for the English one' | Daily Mail Online Utterly stupid. Still, at least it means others will get vaccinated sooner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Kidorry #3572 Posted January 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, altus said: Utterly stupid. Still, at least it means others will get vaccinated sooner. Not really, because when I went for my first vaccination I had to wait in the queue for 1 and a half hours. When I went for the second one I walked straight in. When I asked the nurse why there was no queue and she said people were not turning up. I asked her why they were not given to other people and she said that they had got to be referred by their doctors and apparently once the vaccines have been put into the syringes they go off after a few hours. which means if the people do not turn up the doses are discarded. Our doctors rang me the day before to ask if I was going. Edited January 7 by Kidorry Added text. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
redruby #3573 Posted January 7 9 minutes ago, Kidorry said: Not really, because when I went for my first vaccination I had to wait in the queue for 1 and a half hours. When I went for the second one I walked straight in. When I asked the nurse why there was no queue and she said people were not turning up. I asked her why they were not given to other people and she said that they had got to be referred by their doctors and apparently once the vaccines have been put into the syringes they go off after a few hours. which means if the people do not turn up the doses are discarded. Our doctors rang me the day before to ask if I was going. Oh, that doesn’t bode well ☹️ On a slightly different note, I’ve been wondering if there’s been a bit of complacency since the vaccinations have started to roll out and maybe that’s contributed a bit to the increase in cases? It’s just something I’ve noticed with some people, who perhaps haven’t fully appreciated the challenges of rolling the vaccinations out, particularly in light of the new variant (not to mention future variants for which the vaccine could be ineffective). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus #3574 Posted January 7 14 minutes ago, Kidorry said: Not really, because when I went for my first vaccination I had to wait in the queue for 1 and a half hours. When I went for the second one I walked straight in. When I asked the nurse why there was no queue and she said people were not turning up. I asked her why they were not given to other people and she said that they had got to be referred by their doctors and apparently once the vaccines have been put into the syringes they go off after a few hours. which means if the people do not turn up the doses are discarded. Our doctors rang me the day before to ask if I was going. Whilst people just not turning up is also stupid, it's not the same as people declining an appointment when they are told it's not the Oxford/AstraZeneca one. At least in the latter case they can arrange an appointment with someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M #3575 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, redruby said: Oh, that doesn’t bode well ☹️ On a slightly different note, I’ve been wondering if there’s been a bit of complacency since the vaccinations have started to roll out and maybe that’s contributed a bit to the increase in cases? It’s just something I’ve noticed with some people, who perhaps haven’t fully appreciated the challenges of rolling the vaccinations out, particularly in light of the new variant (not to mention future variants for which the vaccine could be ineffective). Even before the PM told the nation about the new variant of Coronavirus in mid December, I'd noticed more complacency in some members of the public (at around the time when news of the discovery of the vaccine was announced). I really don't buy this idea that people have 'lockdown fatigue'. It might sound harsh, but I think those that claim they're '"bored", and "want life to return to normal" - should take a long look at themselves. And that's been polite! Unfortunately the discovery of the new variant didn't prevent people behaving like idiots at train stations in London and the South East, videos of which have been widely shared on social media, desperate to ram themselves on trains to get to their relatives for Christmas. I just hope that said relatives aren't elderly or clinically vulnerable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
petemcewan #3576 Posted January 7 (edited) Quote Rubbish. Where are you getting these fairytales ? My parents went for their second jab today and were told that everyone had turned up for their appointment. Taken from the comments section after the article. Edited January 7 by petemcewan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...