MuteWitness   10 #2941 Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, melthebell said: of course, thats how medicine works, some people suffer from side effects, some dont, some medicines have side effects, some dont...they write them on the paper that comes in em, if they dont know they dont know, how long should they wait? 1 year, 2? 3? 12 years? Unknown isnt always a negative either. Then for say the under 30s it might be not worth having a vaccine until more info is known. Only reason vax is allowed is because it is an emergency situation but isn't that for people who are at risk( that's what it says on the gov info unless I've interpritated it wrong Edited December 5, 2020 by MuteWitness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #2942 Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MuteWitness said: Then for say the under 30s it might be not worth having a vaccine until more info is known. Only reason vax is allowed is because it is an emergency situation but isn't that for people who are at risk Think you need to take a look at how vaccinations work and what diseases we have kept at bay with vaccinations, yeah there can be side effects, how do you get rid of something when only half the population take it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MuteWitness   10 #2943 Posted December 5, 2020 Just now, melthebell said: Think you need to take a look at how vaccinations work and what diseases we have kept at bay with vaccinations, yeah there can be side effects, how do you get rid of something when only half the population take it? Isnt this what Mike yeadon was talking about ?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #2944 Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MuteWitness said: Isnt this what Mike yeadon was talking about ?  No idea, never seen anything hes said, seen hes aligned himself with the anti lockdown movement though, which puts me off him a bit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MuteWitness   10 #2945 Posted December 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, melthebell said: No idea, never seen anything hes said, seen hes aligned himself with the anti lockdown movement though, which puts me off him a bit I watch lots of different things, he isn't anti Vax just has a different view on things and who knows who is right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PRESLEY   1,229 #2946 Posted December 5, 2020 49 minutes ago, melthebell said: Think you need to take a look at how vaccinations work and what diseases we have kept at bay with vaccinations, yeah there can be side effects, how do you get rid of something when only half the population take it? Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MuteWitness   10 #2947 Posted December 5, 2020 But isn't a normal vaccine a small amount of the virus? Apart from this one.  Anyway I would hate someone to not be able to have kids because they think they are protecting me....what sort of person would want that to happen.    9 hours ago, redruby said: The government won’t force anyone to have a vaccine but there will be pressures from others to have it. For example employers.  It is in parliament on the 14th if there should be restrictions for those not having the vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #2948 Posted December 5, 2020 5 hours ago, El Cid said: These are the side effects from the vaccine  Soreness, redness, and/or swelling where the shot was given Headache (low grade) Fever Muscle aches Nausea Fatigue I’m not sure where this information comes from but is it POSSIBLE side effects. Anyone who takes any medication will be familiar with the leaflet enclosed with any prescription listing a whole host of POSSIBLE reactions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #2949 Posted December 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, MuteWitness said: It is in parliament on the 14th if there should be restrictions for those not having the vaccine. well, people want the freedom to choose, they also get the consequences of their freedom, thats called being an adult, seems like theres this weird nieve childlike ignorance of things, just like with brexit, have your cake and eat it. 1 minute ago, RJRB said: I’m not sure where this information comes from but is it POSSIBLE side effects. Anyone who takes any medication will be familiar with the leaflet enclosed with any prescription listing a whole host of POSSIBLE reactions. Since vaccines include a small dose of the disease / virus those side effects look like symptoms youd get with the virus so it seems obvious you may experience veryminor symptoms, and as you say they normally include them with all medicines anyway 21 minutes ago, MuteWitness said: But isn't a normal vaccine a small amount of the virus? Apart from this one. why doesnt this one include a small amount of the virus, i thought thats how vaccines worked? why is this one special? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #2950 Posted December 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:   It is in parliament on the 14th if there should be restrictions for those not having the vaccine. Thanks for that- I didn't know about it.  For those who oppose the covid vaccine being compulsory [restricting access to travel and social events is compulsion] there is an online petition here-  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   604 #2951 Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, MuteWitness said:  It is in parliament on the 14th if there should be restrictions for those not having the vaccine. Have you a source for this please?  Googling "covid vaccination vote 14 december uk" and similar draws blanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MuteWitness   10 #2952 Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, melthebell said: well, people want the freedom to choose, they also get the consequences of their freedom, thats called being an adult, seems like theres this weird nieve childlike ignorance of things, just like with brexit, have your cake and eat it. Since vaccines include a small dose of the disease / virus those side effects look like symptoms youd get with the virus so it seems obvious you may experience veryminor symptoms, and as you say they normally include them with all medicines anyway why doesnt this one include a small amount of the virus, i thought thats how vaccines worked? why is this one special? Thought you might know. I'm unsure why it doesn't contain the virus but some reports say the virus was never isolated but had hoped someone could tell me. 1 minute ago, Longcol said: Have you a source for this please?  Googling "covid vaccination vote 14 december uk" and similar draws blanks. Someone's posted the link above you that says it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...