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16 minutes ago, despritdan said:

Given the state of the economy, I'd prioritize people who work and pay taxes to get things moving again. I know this sounds a bit callous towards the more vulnerable members of society but total economic collapse wouldn't be good for anybody. The sick and elderly could carry on shielding until their turn comes along.

dont worry, there seems to be enough money left for almost 5 grands worth of bong bongs

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1 hour ago, despritdan said:

Given the state of the economy, I'd prioritize people who work and pay taxes to get things moving again. I know this sounds a bit callous towards the more vulnerable members of society but total economic collapse wouldn't be good for anybody. The sick and elderly could carry on shielding until their turn comes along.

Some of the elderly and the vulnerable pay tax and normally spend money too. After 9 months of shielding (not all infirm or at deaths door) I think many of them are eager to hit the shops. 

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1 hour ago, catmiss said:

Some of the elderly and the vulnerable pay tax and normally spend money too. After 9 months of shielding (not all infirm or at deaths door) I think many of them are eager to hit the shops. 

I hope when they go to the shops, there will be discounts galore for them,  even though the majority of us have been restricted in our daily routines, but  the Elderly, the Vunerable have lterally been  and still are living in fear for their lives, all the key workers should get consessions as well. 

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I guess there has been some NEW science around vitamin D and COVID?

 

More than 2.5 million vulnerable people in England will be offered free Vitamin D supplements this winter.

The vitamin, which helps to keep bones, teeth and muscles healthy, will be delivered to people who are clinically extremely vulnerable, and care homes.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55108613

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1 hour ago, El Cid said:

I guess there has been some NEW science around vitamin D and COVID?

 

More than 2.5 million vulnerable people in England will be offered free Vitamin D supplements this winter.

The vitamin, which helps to keep bones, teeth and muscles healthy, will be delivered to people who are clinically extremely vulnerable, and care homes.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55108613

It is fairly recently that there has been shown to be a link between vitamin d deficiency and hospitalisations due to covid.

 

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/respiratory/more-than-80-of-hospitalised-covid-patients-have-vitamin-d-deficiency-study-suggests/

 

My dearly beloved first mentioned this (not the article but some preliminary findings) a couple of months ago and promptly bought us a years supply of vitamin d tablets.

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I've taken vit d since hearing Dr John campbell on YouTube talk about it back in march time...not died of covid yet!

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Everyone should take a Vitamin D supplement between November and March anyway.

 

The  (frail) elderly are more at risk of deficiency as they are less likely to get outside at all, and many frail elderly are already on Vit D supplements...

 

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52 minutes ago, Longcol said:

It is fairly recently that there has been shown to be a link between vitamin d deficiency and hospitalisations due to covid.

 

NICE knew about it in September 2020, I am guessing they were not the first organisation/country to realise.

 

https://www.nice.org.uk/advice/es28/chapter/Key-messages

 

Diseases associated with a vitamin D deficiency include certain types of cancer (breast, prostate, colon and ovaries). It has also been associated with increased risks for fractures, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, autoimmune and infectious diseases, asthma and other wheezing disorders, myocardial infarction, hypertension, congestive heart failure, and peripheral vascular disease.

 

France, Australia, Canada and the Nordic countries, to name just a few, have fortified some foods with vitamin D for many years.

 

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/lifestyle/food-drink/1291402/should-vitamin-d-be-added-to-bread-and-milk/

 

Did you know we should all consider taking a daily supplement of 10 micrograms of vitamin D each day? More info here: https://bit.ly/2UWt5Py

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On 28/11/2020 at 12:27, PRESLEY said:

I hope when they go to the shops, there will be discounts galore for them,  even though the majority of us have been restricted in our daily routines, but  the Elderly, the Vunerable have lterally been  and still are living in fear for their lives, all the key workers should get consessions as well. 

I think the local shops, bars, restaurants etc. need all the spending they can get, I’m happy with free Vitamin D😀.  Classified as ‘extremely vulnerable to the virus’ but normally, with medication, fairly fit, well and independent I just get a bit fed up of being written off by those who think this group should carry on shielding indefinitely 

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2 hours ago, catmiss said:

I think the local shops, bars, restaurants etc. need all the spending they can get, I’m happy with free Vitamin D😀.  Classified as ‘extremely vulnerable to the virus’ but normally, with medication, fairly fit, well and independent I just get a bit fed up of being written off by those who think this group should carry on shielding indefinitely 

This group are at a high risk,  best to be safe than sorry.

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On 28/11/2020 at 21:28, Becky B said:

Everyone should take a Vitamin D supplement between November and March anyway.

Funny how I remember each time the press interview someone very old and ask about longevity, 3 things come up - positivity, contact with other people and alcohol (usually a nip of something before bed).  I've never heard of Vitamin D, or any other vitamins.

 

Perhaps they should not only encourage more contact with others for the elderly (yes, I know plenty of charities etc encourage that), but also a dram at bedime.....

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