Coronavirus - Part Two.

[Thirsty Relic 215]

3 minutes ago, redruby said:

Greg Fell made an interesting point at the end of his latest update.  Apparently 80% of people believe that if they caught covid it would be from a stranger.  Of course the reverse is true, as we spend more time with family and friends.  I’ve suspected a lot of people think this from the outset and it is probably one of the reasons covid can spread so quickly. Some people will worry unnecessarily about passing a stranger on a footpath briefly but won’t consider their own close family and friends to pose the same danger.  

Great point - we all relax at home.  We take off and bin our masks (assuming like me the only reason people go out is to shop these days), then relax and watch a bit of tele and play with the kids when they get home from school.  Innocent little ones can't have mingled with many others and brought Covid home with them, could they?

[Longcol 604]

3 hours ago, melthebell said:

Tories killing off the socialist republics

Oh come on Mel - you know the Tories are totally above board when it comes to distributing funding etc  😎.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/11/inquiry-raises-concerns-over-how-36bn-towns-fund-was-distributed

 

Been looking at the 67 boroughs that will get mass testing - as far as I can see none of the 17 London Boroughs on the list are in the top 80 of the most affected areas.

[Thirsty Relic 215]

7 hours ago, petemcewan said:

Thirsty Relic and Baron 99 both spot on 

 The Moderna mRNA vaccine looks like it can be shipped and stored in ordinary freezer trucks. Other vaccine candidates seem to have even less severe storage requirements.

 

Let's hope that there are very capable and clever people being drafted in to manage the whole  storage and delivery programme of the BioNTech vaccine.

It looks like that has already been sorted out:

 

 "once the vaccine has been transported it can be stored in a fridge for up to five days at 2-8C – which is entirely feasible in a standard medicine fridge at a GP practice"   https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/special-shipping-for-pfizer-vaccine-with-remote-temperature-monitoring-39731098.html

 

Before GP's  question how they can do this while doing their normal work, could I suggest an off-the-wall idea (in addition to using sports stadiums and centres/community halls etc)?  

 

Ice cream vans transport their produce at low temperatures.  Can't they be requisitioned to help deliver them where they are needed, in addition to other provision?  I can't see too many being used in November, and I can't see large trucks being able to get to isolated communities/bedridden patients unable to get to injections centres.

 

 

 

[Becky B 31]

6 hours ago, Thirsty Relic said:

It looks like that has already been sorted out:

 

 "once the vaccine has been transported it can be stored in a fridge for up to five days at 2-8C – which is entirely feasible in a standard medicine fridge at a GP practice"   https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/special-shipping-for-pfizer-vaccine-with-remote-temperature-monitoring-39731098.html

 

Before GP's  question how they can do this while doing their normal work, could I suggest an off-the-wall idea (in addition to using sports stadiums and centres/community halls etc)?  

 

Ice cream vans transport their produce at low temperatures.  Can't they be requisitioned to help deliver them where they are needed, in addition to other provision?  I can't see too many being used in November, and I can't see large trucks being able to get to isolated communities/bedridden patients unable to get to injections centres.

 

 

 

Then if the music's playing the vaccine has run out? 😆.

 

Now I've got your image of a tank coming up the street (and everyone losing their cars in the process) followed by an ice cream van!

 

Can I add to the ideas flow?  Snipers with dart guns loaded with vaccine (in the manner of tranquiliser guns)?

[RollingJ 2,042]

36 minutes ago, Becky B said:

Then if the music's playing the vaccine has run out? 😆.

 

Now I've got your image of a tank coming up the street (and everyone losing their cars in the process) followed by an ice cream van!

 

Can I add to the ideas flow?  Snipers with dart guns loaded with vaccine (in the manner of tranquiliser guns)?

I like it, @Becky B🤣

[PRESLEY 1,230]

Students to be tested before Xmas home leave,  news reporter just said,  thats if all come forward,  easy peasy,  give them all a chitty,  so as they go through the test testing process the Chitty is stamped by the tester then hand in to Uni admin, otherwise no test chitty stamped no home leave. 

[Pettytom 1]

3 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

Students to be tested before Xmas home leave,  news reporter just said,  thats if all come forward,  easy peasy,  give them all a chitty,  so as they go through the test testing process the Chitty is stamped by the tester then hand in to Uni admin, otherwise no test chitty stamped no home leave. 

They are students, not prisoners😀

 

 

[PRESLEY 1,230]

Just now, Pettytom said:

They are students, not prisoners😀

 

 

OK ! just let them do what they want,  you probably havn't noticed yet so I'll be the first to tell you but we are in the middle of a Pandemic which  causes changes and hardships  and people have to make sacrifices,  have you  ever tried getting a teenager a teenager out of bed in a morning,  kids have to be made to do stuff or else they wouldn't do it,  I would like to take my wife out for a meal but we can't, are we prisoners, no we are in Lockdown thats the way it is,  ensuring someone  takes a test to keep other people safe is not treating them like a Prisoner, get a grip.  

[Baron99 801]

29 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

They are students, not prisoners😀

 

 

And they are adults but many seem incapable of abiding by the adult rules. 

[francypants 441]

If they are not going to act on positive results ...... what is the point of testing  ?

[Thirsty Relic 215]

32 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

They are students, not prisoners😀

 

 

As we do not live in a dictatorship, people do have choices.  There are plenty of people who do not agree with the lockdown, but follow the rules.  There are also those that don't, as we have seen.

 

As far a vaccine is concerned, there will be those who rush forward to get a jab, others that are undecided, and some very much against it.  If I understand it correctly and the vaccine offers 90% immunity from Covid, if most people get vaccinated, then those who don't are still succeptable, but can't transmit it to those vaccinated.  Therefore, life can resume, and Covid cases will plummet, and eventually disappear.

[Pettytom 1]

23 minutes ago, PRESLEY said:

OK ! just let them do what they want,  you probably havn't noticed yet so I'll be the first to tell you but we are in the middle of a Pandemic which  causes changes and hardships  and people have to make sacrifices,  have you  ever tried getting a teenager a teenager out of bed in a morning,  kids have to be made to do stuff or else they wouldn't do it,  I would like to take my wife out for a meal but we can't, are we prisoners, no we are in Lockdown thats the way it is,  ensuring someone  takes a test to keep other people safe is not treating them like a Prisoner, get a grip.  

Just like every other adult, they have free will. It’s fine to encourage them to get tested, but if they choose not to, then that’s that really.

 

Did you really envisage locking students up if they don’t get tested?

17 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

And they are adults but many seem incapable of abiding by the adult rules. 

I don’t think that students disproportionately disobey the rules. It is mostly middle aged men with attitude problems who refuse to wear masks and social distance.

 

I feel massively sorry for our current university students. They are getting a very poor deal.